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Old 04-11-2013, 07:23 AM   #29
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My opinion is that whatever procedure for selling the campers that was dictated by Uhaul headquarters was not strictly followed at all locations where they were sold. One example is that some had all the Uhaul ID removed, including the decals. That's the way ours is. Others have the decals covered, by paint or a solid decal. I saw one that had all the original decals on it. I know when I worked for Ryder we didn't always follow procedures or complete what was to be done. Ryder procedure when selling a unit was to de-ID it, so I assume that was Uhaul policy also but not done at every location. Maybe there was some procedure for the VIN numbers too. Out CT has a metallic sticker on the left side near the front that has numbers but it is partially scraped off, intentionally done at the time of sale, or accidental damage, I don't know. Also on the front window frame at the bottom there is what looks like the old label maker plastic tape with the numbers on it. It's in bad shape from age, not easily readable, but appears to have 16 or 17 digits & letters. No numbers or tag on the tongue, so I'm going to stamp the numbers from my title on to the tongue to help avoid any issues in the future, maybe stamp them on the frame somewhere too.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:18 AM   #30
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My opinion is that whatever procedure for selling the campers that was dictated by Uhaul headquarters was not strictly followed at all locations where they were sold. One example is that some had all the Uhaul ID removed, including the decals. That's the way ours is. Others have the decals covered, by paint or a solid decal. I saw one that had all the original decals on it. I know when I worked for Ryder we didn't always follow procedures or complete what was to be done. Ryder procedure when selling a unit was to de-ID it, so I assume that was Uhaul policy also but not done at every location. Maybe there was some procedure for the VIN numbers too. Out CT has a metallic sticker on the left side near the front that has numbers but it is partially scraped off, intentionally done at the time of sale, or accidental damage, I don't know. Also on the front window frame at the bottom there is what looks like the old label maker plastic tape with the numbers on it. It's in bad shape from age, not easily readable, but appears to have 16 or 17 digits & letters. No numbers or tag on the tongue, so I'm going to stamp the numbers from my title on to the tongue to help avoid any issues in the future, maybe stamp them on the frame somewhere too.
You are correct about de-imaging the equipment. Also if there is not a visible VIN equipment can be "assigned" a new VIN. So it can be tricky. If you are sure of your VIN I don't see a reason you couldn't stamp it on your trailer where ever you would like. This would make it less likely to be Re-Owned by someone who may be less than honist.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:23 AM   #31
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Hello mmeyer;

Thanks for helping in my problem. Yes it is a VT I would suspect since there is a VT in the middle of 8 numbers. The seller told me it was a CT which he said it stood for Camper Trailer but I suspect he is mistaken.

Could you tell me what VT stands for?

Yes, you may put me where I belong in the forum as I am just beginning my journey here.

Thanks and God bless; Bill & Family
Welcome to the family, We have a VT also, I'll have to check our numbers when we get back, so far this winter we have gone 5000 mi
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:02 PM   #32
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Our numbers are on the front left side and by the door on the out side and wielded on the frame behind the left wheel, our numbers are 3666 VT 8174
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:39 PM   #33
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Hi Roger;

Thanks for helping too. This is a great place to meet people that have hearts to help others. I feel blessed and like I've found a home here with other like minded people.

My tag has the same numbers as yours does except for the last 2 are 72. So it seems like my VT was made right before yours.

I don't have any numbers by the door but I've been told there are other places U-Haul placed the whole list of 17 numbers. I have not found that place yet. I did contact Chris and am hoping for some more info from him too.

Thanks again for helping and God Bless, Bill & Family
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Old 04-11-2013, 05:55 PM   #34
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Just an update here. I still have not found all 17 digits on the trailer, however I found a small tag on the axle, very rusty and very hard to read. Top has NEW....IND. then has numbers and letters under that but none of which I seem to need. I'm not ruling this out yet as it is hard to fit under far enough to use a magnifying glass. One side weld is loose and it is just a single pea size weld on each side.

Talked to past owner today and asked if he found any tags but he never looked. All he had to do is send the title in and wah-lah, it's done. Now that is liberty and I think we lost that in PA a long time ago.

Took the title to the notary that has the direct line to the state today and they said it showed it belongs to an 85 U-Haul Trailer but did not give an owner name because it is out of state.

The guy sitting next to me turned out to be a retired inspection mechanic and offered his inspection of the VIN when I'm ready, and for free. The girls didn't think he would be able to do it though since he is retired. That is an unknown so far but his offer was very kind.

I guess my next chore will be to find that vin stamping.

Thanks everyone...we'll keep you posted.

God Bless, Bill & Family
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:06 PM   #35
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Only have 16 in my vin number. Is your rear bumper aluminum or fiberglass? Mine seems to be slightly different than the others. Fiberglass bumper, no sticker on outside and a slightly longer tongue with rubber mounts for some unknown purpose.
My bad I have 17 letters and numbers now that I have daylight to actually count. Also it starts with the same sequence Chris indicated it would.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:38 PM   #36
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Just an update here. I still have not found all 17 digits on the trailer, however I found a small tag on the axle, very rusty and very hard to read. Top has NEW....IND. then has numbers and letters under that but none of which I seem to need. I'm not ruling this out yet as it is hard to fit under far enough to use a magnifying glass. One side weld is loose and it is just a single pea size weld on each side.

Talked to past owner today and asked if he found any tags but he never looked. All he had to do is send the title in and wah-lah, it's done. Now that is liberty and I think we lost that in PA a long time ago.

Took the title to the notary that has the direct line to the state today and they said it showed it belongs to an 85 U-Haul Trailer but did not give an owner name because it is out of state.

The guy sitting next to me turned out to be a retired inspection mechanic and offered his inspection of the VIN when I'm ready, and for free. The girls didn't think he would be able to do it though since he is retired. That is an unknown so far but his offer was very kind.

I guess my next chore will be to find that vin stamping.

Thanks everyone...we'll keep you posted.

God Bless, Bill & Family
The tag on the axle will most likely be the axles own tag and not for your trailer. Good luck bud.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:13 PM   #37
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I was just over on the tnttt forum, another PA resident went and bought a junk popup in Delaware to use the frame to build a teardrop on. It had an old PA title from an owner previous to the current seller. PA wanted paperwork from the old PA owner which would be a pain in the A for the guy that just bought it, so guess what his solution was; a Maine registration as a home made trailer!!
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:31 AM   #38
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Mary & Bob;

I just got off the phone with Maine for registration. They have to send me a list of notary offices in Maine via email. Then I have to go thru them. I wanted to start this method just in case I can't find the full number. If I find the number I think I will ask that retired mechanic to verify it if he says his license is still active.

I posted the list below but have not called any of them yet

Maine Statutory Agents
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Haskell Registration Agency
PO Box 148 Phone: 207-622-3843
Augusta, ME 04332 FAX: 207-626-3147
haskellregistration@roadrunner.com


MMTA Services Inc
PO Box 857 Phone: 207-623-4128
Augusta, ME 04332 Phone: 207-623-4128
www.mmta.com FAX: 207-623-4096



Maine-ly Titles Phone: 877-886-8848

Attn: Mike Rolnick Fax: 888-855-7066

PO Box 1189

Bangor, ME 04402

www.mainelytitles.com




Staab Agency
PO Box 942 Phone: 207-549-7541
259 Goose Hill Road 207-549-3299
Jefferson, Maine 04348 FAX: 207-549-7638
michele@staabagency.com FAX: 207-549-5138
www.staabagency.comToll Free (US & Canada)
800-648-8805


Countrywide Trailer Registrations
PO Box 1515 Phone: 207-590-5344
Biddeford, ME. 04005 207-284-0203
207-522-4552
Fax: 207-282-7370
cwtr@maine.rr.com
www.countrywidetrailerregistrations.com
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:55 AM   #39
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Is it time for the number stamps? The retired guy sounds like a good option. Hope this all gets resolved soon.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:01 AM   #40
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Once you get it all straightened out, I'd suggest a VIN plate mounted someplace on the frame. Easier than trying to number the frame! ID/Name Plate - VIN
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:55 AM   #41
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Well Bob, it is definitely time for me to get out the power wire brush. I saw some youtube videos that were not U-Haul specific but showed some other places where that number might be stamped. We are all sick here and it is raining out so hope it will be nice tomorrow to start sanding, scraping, and get out the VIN finder, etc.

Just got off the phone with Staab Agency in Maine. They don't title anything under 3000 lbs. or earlier then 1995. She said just keep the NC title I now have and give that to the new buyer if I would sell it, or I can title it in PA. My name is already on the back of the title so not sure how that would work. Seems like PA would want tax paid if I applied for title. Also not sure what happens if I'm pulled over with just Maine tag and registration but no title? So with a 1985 camper it isn't as simple as everyone makes it sound, but I may be wrong too, who knows.

Tags are $27/yr. and if I use it 80% for travel out of state I will be tax exempt but have no title.

Hi Donna; Thanks for your input. I checked out the tag you posted and the size is only 3" long and there is painted design all around too, so getting 17 numbers in that particular 2-1/2" tag space would be next to impossible. I will check out that site for other ones though

Looks like I'm still on the fence here wanting to do the right thing; so searching for those 17 numbers is still my next move. Chris says they should be on the camper somewhere so I'm still hopeful.

God bless, Bill & Family
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:55 AM   #42
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Donna; I bought a couple of those ID plates after you mentioned them some time ago. Not bad but a little on the small side, official looking though. May corrode after time exposed to weather. Thanks for that link, I wouldn't have known about them otherwise.
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