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Old 06-21-2016, 09:19 PM   #1
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5th wheel towing with Nissan frontier crew cab

Hi we have towed our 5th for several years with a toyota t-100, we now have a 2014 frontier crew cab with short bed. from the front of the bed to two inches in front of the rear axle is 20". With that distance the front corners of the camper will hit the cab when turning or backing sharply. what is the distance I need from the front of the bed to the hitch ball needed to get for clearance so the camper will not hit the cab?

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Old 06-21-2016, 10:21 PM   #2
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I tow my Scamp 19 with a short box Nissan Frontier crew cab. Prior to that, I had a Toyota Tacoma crew cab with short box. In the Toyota, the hitch was mounted 8" behind the axle so that I could have the truck at 90 degrees to the trailer. When I mounted the hitch in the Nissan, I located the ball at exactly the center of the bed. It works quite well.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:29 PM   #3
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Did you mean front to back?

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Old 06-22-2016, 06:47 AM   #4
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Did you mean front to back?

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Yes! It seems to be about 2" behind the axle.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:18 AM   #5
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Thanks Dennis I will give a try

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Old 06-22-2016, 09:58 AM   #6
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My thought process was that since the allowable tounge weight for a Tacoma or Frontier is 500 lbs at the bumper, any location ahead of the bumper would not overload the rear axle, or take to much weight off the front. I know that the rule is to locate the hitch slightly ahead of the rear axle when pulling a fifth wheel, but with a Scamp 19 foot, it seems to work to violate that rule. I did learn that with the location that I chose, when hooking up the trailer, and with the tail gate down on the Nissan, the tailgate comes very close to hitting the frame (propane rack) on the trailer. I have to be very carefull to back up to the trailer straight. With the additional 6" at the Tacoma, and with a tailgate 3" shorter I could approach the trailer at any angle.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:47 AM   #7
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Install a Sliding 5th Wheel Hitch

Install a sliding 5th wheel hitch in your Frontier. A sliding hitch allows an over-the-rear-axle towing position and a behind-the-rear axel maneuvering position. Typically, during towing the relative angle between the tow vehicle and trailer is small, but increases during low-speed maneuvering. Sliding the hitch to its rear-most maneuvering position allows a much larger interference-free relative angle between the tow vehicle and trailer.

I tow an Escape 5.0 with a 2006 Silverado 2500HD and use a sliding hitch to minimize the distance between the trailer and cab while towing. I tow with the hitch at its forward position and manually set the hitch to its maneuvering position when needed.

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I think that it would require a bit of engineering and fabrication to adapt a Scamp hitch to a sliding fifth wheel. The Scamp is actually a Gooseneck, using a 2" ball and proprietary hitch, unlike the Escape which is a true fifth wheel.
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Install a Sliding 5th Wheel Hitch

You're absolutely right. I didn't take notice that you're towing a Scamp 5th wheel. But... I'm willing to bet that with some basic design a welding shop can modify a sliding 5th wheel hitch to accommodate Scamp's gooseneck connector. It may be one of a kind, but I'll bet it would work.
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You're absolutely right. I didn't take notice that you're towing a Scamp 5th wheel. But... I'm willing to bet that with some basic design a welding shop can modify a sliding 5th wheel hitch to accommodate Scamp's gooseneck connector. It may be one of a kind, but I'll bet it would work.
Absolutely no doubt it could be done. I have done engineering and my son is a weldor/fabricator. We adapted my Scamp hitch which was bolted directly to the box of the Toyota to Reese rails, so I can pull four pins and easily remove the Scamp hitch from the truck for hauling.
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Install a Sliding 5th Wheel Hitch

If you were closer I'd say lets get together and design and fabricate a sliding gooseneck hitch!
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If you were closer I'd say lets get together and design and fabricate a sliding gooseneck hitch!

If you are really interested, the distance is no issue. I own a CAD company, and e-mail drawing all over the country! I chose not to go with a slider, because of the cost, and I did not think that mounting the hitch a bit behind the axle was an issue, and after 14 years of pulling the Scamp set up that way, I feel the same way. If I owned a bigger camper with more tounge weight, I would have used a different system, but then, I wouldn't be towing with a Nissan Frontier, would I.
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