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Old 05-16-2018, 12:37 PM   #1
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Hello wonderful helpers! My Scamp has a bathroom with a toilet and it does not have a shower. I want to add a shower and was provided with an estimate of $2000. The estimate is from a local company that inspects/repairs/restores RVs/Boats/Trailers. Quite frankly . . . I am HORRIFIED at this price and would greatly appreciate some input as to what you think of this estimate. Also . . . any input, pics etc. from anyone that has already added a shower to their bathroom would be great. Also . . . any referrals to others threads/posts regarding adding a shower to a Scamp would be helpful. I thought that going to a company that specializes in this would be the best idea and am now re-considering. Thank you in advance for any help you might provide!
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I assume it does not have the shower pan (floor).. if so to match the Scamp layout four shower you would need to pull out the commode and black water tank, install a shower pan, drain pipe to the gray water tank, and a pump. Then install waterproof wall covering and run piping to the cold and hot water plumbing, add hand shower wand, replace black water tank and commode. $2,000 almost sounds cheap

All that for a shower that I personally find largely impractical. I have not used mine in 30 months of ownership and I even removed the water heater.

If you really want the shower, I would call Scamp and ask them how much they would charge. Even if you don't want to go to Backus, it will give you an idea of what the cost is. I would expect Scamp to be lower than most anyone else.

But IMHO you should consider other ideas such as a portable outside shower, or even a solar bag shower or a bucket filled with hot water from a tea kettle.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:50 PM   #3
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Call Scamp. They do a lot of remodel/upgrade work on their trailers. Their prices are generally pretty competitive and they have all the parts right there.

Toilet-only models may not have a hot water system. If so, this upgrade involves adding a complete hot water system and water heater as well as a shower pan and fiberglass panels, along with drain plumbing. So, $2000 may not be such a bad price. Scamp's estimate will give you a basis for comparison, and I'd be curious to hear their answer.
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Well . . . I called Scamp and asked for a quote and they quoted $3,000.00 !!!

It's starting to look like I will be 'bathing' in front of the sink !!! LOL!
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I assume it does not have the shower pan (floor).. if so to match the Scamp layout four shower you would need to pull out the commode and black water tank, install a shower pan, drain pipe to the gray water tank, and a pump. Then install waterproof wall covering and run piping to the cold and hot water plumbing, add hand shower wand, replace black water tank and commode. $2,000 almost sounds cheap

All that for a shower that I personally find largely impractical. I have not used mine in 30 months of ownership and I even removed the water heater.

If you really want the shower, I would call Scamp and ask them how much they would charge. Even if you don't want to go to Backus, it will give you an idea of what the cost is. I would expect Scamp to be lower than most anyone else.

But IMHO you should consider other ideas such as a portable outside shower, or even a solar bag shower or a bucket filled with hot water from a tea kettle.
This is great advice.

We too removed our water heater as well as the shower. The space was so very very small that I was unable to stand up, mostly because I am 6'3".

So, we bought this portable sprayer from Amazon and intended to use it for dishes and a shower when then absolute need arose. We did use it for dishes repeatedly and it worked fabulously. I wouldn't recommend adding the shower in such a small camper, but that's just my opinion. The popup shower mentioned by several others would be a great choice.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:12 PM   #6
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But IMHO you should consider other ideas such as a portable outside shower, or even a solar bag shower or a bucket filled with hot water from a tea kettle.
We have the shower in our Scamp, but it is unusable by me.<_< My 13, now 14 year old daughter has used it but we both use other facilities now. When boondocking that is a pop-up shower tent on top of a perforated rubber mat.
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Well . . . I called Scamp and asked for a quote and they quoted $3,000.00 !!!

It's starting to look like I will be 'bathing' in front of the sink !!! LOL!
With Scamp's estimate at $3000, now I'm wondering what the local shop is overlooking or leaving out!

I figure you really only need a full body shower once or twice a week when camping. Soap and a washcloth in the meantime. Many campgrounds have showers, and alternatives when boondocking have already been mentioned. Another is a garden sprayer, the kind used to spray insecticides. Heat water on stove, pump for pressure. Read a blog where a pair of young, full-timing adventurers did just that.
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Maybe an exterior shower.
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I thought that with the amount of labor and material required to add a shower ,
$2000 was on the low side . I did electrical estimating for many years and I never heard a customer remark that the price was too low
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Maybe an exterior shower.
If you have a water heater then I would second this motion. It would be much less money. Depending on where you are camping, you might need to catch the gray water, and you might want a privacy shower tent, but this is a good option. I am sure there is a way to do it in almost any Scamp, with any layout and options.

If you do not have a water heater (like me), then you might as well hook up to the site's water tap for your shower. And if there is no water at the site, then how much / often can you clean up with the little fresh water tank on the Scamp anyway?

Usually the campground bathhouse (if there is one) is preferable to trying to shower in a Scamp with side bath, even if it is somewhat on the nasty side. Shower shoes, however, are a requirement.
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I bought the external continuous flow propane water heater -- we will use it only for the shower, and unhook it when we are in regular campgrounds with showers. It was a little more than a hundred dollars but might be a really good solution for outside.

https://smile.amazon.com/Camplux-1-3...eater+tankless

looks like it is a little more now.
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The garden sprayer and the continuous hot water heater are both good suggestions. Some garden sprayers have thicker walls which would hold the heat and pressure.

I have had good luck with products from this company, particularly the Extreme Shower.
Zodi Portable Instant Hot Shower | Shower Accessories | Free Shipping* on Orders over $100 | Zodi.com

Plan B? Plumb an outdoor shower into your trailer, as Glenn suggests.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:19 AM   #13
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I am so G R A T E F U L for every single bit of great advice, the links and the pics!

I will definitely NOT be adding a shower and now have choices available thanks to all you helpful people! My fundamental concern was cold weather as I plan to relocate to western North Carolina where it does get cold for a Floridian.

THANKS SO MUCH !!!
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... My fundamental concern was cold weather as I plan to relocate to western North Carolina where it does get cold for a Floridian....
Not just for Floridian's but for also for us (now) native Carolinians also. Even in the Piedmont, the Scamp needs to be winterized almost half the year. And that of course means no showers in the camper. The OEM shower has a pump that is exposed under the trailer and that is one of the first things that will suffer freeze damage.
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