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Old 10-28-2014, 02:21 PM   #43
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. Can put in new gas furnace or replace kitchen cupboards, counter, sink, flooring etc. without one. Running a new gas line for the furnace? eh that gets a little bit iffy. .
No iffy about it here. You need a permit when replacing a gas furnace whether or not you are putting in a new gas line or not. A new gas line to a new furnace or stove needs a permit as well.

No permit needed for replacing cupboards, floors, counters etc here either- but if you move old or install any new electrical outlets a permit is needed.
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In the same town, city employees would knock on doors and if dogs barked, the address would be checked to make sure the folks had their dogs licensed.

Don't know about anyone else, but that wasn't my dog. It was my sister's, visiting from (fill in location of your choice) and I am doggy sitting while she is (again, fill in activity of you choice). And you got the dog so frightened it was cowering in the corner when I got home, so stay the h#%* off my property in the future or you will be checking to see if my attorney is licensed.


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State inspectors were responsible for the sag tests and construction standards on the I-24 bridge at Metropolis.
While the inspectors suffered from hip dysplasia from sitting on their wallets, the repairs on the approved and finished brand new bridge exceeded 24 million dollars if I recall correctly.

Then there are those approved construction methods and inspections done on the I-35 bridge at Minneapolis (the spans were reportedly only stacked in place like a child's building blocks.)

There is no substitute for competent work done with integrity.
My local building inspector can't read any better than I, he certainly couldn't care more about my results, and he has less experience.
He does, however, get a title and a paycheck which is some comfort to some...I guess!
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I live in a steel house. The framing is steel, the partitions are steel, the trusses are steel, the roof is metal, and the siding is steel. Only wood is in the kitchen cabinets. Baseboards are a composite material.
The inspector insisted that the builder do a perimeter termite treatment to get a certificate of occupancy. Same inspector would probably insist on the installation of a screen door on a submarine.......brilliant, so brilliant!


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Next door neighbor was always doing something to annoy the twp. or county. Inspector came around middle of the day when he was gone, knocked then started looking in the windows and taking pictures.

Wife was taking a nap, work up at the knock, by the time she got up it was to see man peering through window with a camera. Inspector found himself peering at pistol while she called 911.

Neighbor and twp. came to an understanding.... make an appointment if you want to look around inside.
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No iffy about it here. You need a permit when replacing a gas furnace whether or not you are putting in a new gas line or not. A new gas line to a new furnace or stove needs a permit as well.

No permit needed for replacing cupboards, floors, counters etc here either- but if you move old or install any new electrical outlets a permit is needed.
Price for new HVAC system delivered to the door...$1885.
Peace of mind knowing it was done right...Priceless!

Price for the same system installed by local dealer...$6400.
Peace of mind relative to how well you know the work and the dealer.

Savings... the price of two weeks for two on the tropical island of your choice.

Those who can't do the job right should pay the freight, but by definition they are not qualified to make the decision to burden those who can.
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Those who can't do the job right should pay the freight, but by definition they are not qualified to make the decision to burden those who can.

Precisely.


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Price for new HVAC system delivered to the door...$1885.
Peace of mind knowing it was done right...Priceless!

Price for the same system installed by local dealer...$6400.
Peace of mind relative to how well you know the work and the dealer.

Savings... the price of two weeks for two on the tropical island of your choice.

Those who can't do the job right should pay the freight, but by definition they are not qualified to make the decision to burden those who can.
Very eloquent, as usual Floyd. Oh, and BTW, there is just enough room between those two palm trees for our Scamp.

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Don't know about anyone else, but that wasn't my dog. It was my sister's, visiting from (fill in location of your choice) and I am doggy sitting while she is (again, fill in activity of you choice). And you got the dog so frightened it was cowering in the corner when I got home, so stay the h#%* off my property in the future or you will be checking to see if my attorney is licensed.


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Carl, I like the way you think. The problem we face here is that lawsuits don't faze the politicians. After all, it's the taxpayer's money that's on the line. They have nothing to lose.

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Very eloquent, as usual Floyd. Oh, and BTW, there is just enough room between those two palm trees for our Scamp.

Tom
But where would the hammock go if the scamp was between the trees? Arranging a campsite, almost as difficult as .......

Never mind you get me and the scamp there and I'll figure it out!
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Geee..... Just maybe can we get this thread back to FGRV concerns.
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Old 11-07-2014, 07:22 PM   #54
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Cool Latest information on "Code States"

I just received this message from Gary Bunzer:

Hi Roger...thank you for your recent email to the RV Doctor Website! It is
> our sincere hope the website has been beneficial to you as you travel. Now,
> on to your question;
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> There are only a few "code" states left; WA remains one. The L&I laws
> pertain primarily to RV builders. Regular maintenance, repair and
> installations by RV owners once the coach is sold is not normally governed
> unless it involves a safety concern. The RVIA seal governs the "standard" by
> which all RVs should be built, the NFPA 1192 is the governing document. Some
> code states still require a certification and a state seal, but there's only
> 4 or 5 that I'm aware of.
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> In the aftermarket, unless major construction modifications are altered,
> I've never heard of the state demanding a permit. My dad, for instance, made
> a 5th wheel trailer out of a conventional travel trailer for his own
> personal use. THAT probably would qualify for a state permit and inspection,
> but the addition of RV-approved products would not normally require
> anything. That's one reason why it's important to only install "approved"
> products.
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> Thanks again for contacting the RV Doctor Website! Hope this was helpful to
> you. Remember, RVing is more than a hobby, itıs a lifestyle!
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Roger, currently there are only three "code" states that work with RVIA on
RV standards; WA, OR and NE. I'm not aware of how they actually impact the
RV industry however. Bruce Hopkins at RVIA is the VP in charge of Codes &
Standards for all member manufacturers. He would be the one to talk to for
the details.

You can publish my earlier response if you wish. Just know that it is simply
my opinion since I'm certainly not an attorney. Nor do I speak "for" RVIA,
just parallel with them. Nice website, by the way.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:18 PM   #55
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Washington is nuts about permits, anyway. For example, before I can get a building permit to replace my existing house, I have to get another permit that says I have access to the road the house is on- yes, the same road that the driveway already accesses. And another to say I have access to the water that already is piped into the existing house (and they made a little note saying "this is only for new construction" although they must know the house already has water.) Plus the road access one has a check box to assure no eagles are nesting on the treeless property.

So it would not surprise me if to get a trailer permit to change a lightbulb to LED you would be expected to prove you have access to the highway and that no eagles are nesting on or in your trailer.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:45 PM   #56
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O my
I am a journeyman but still feel this is excessive; inspection for some renos? maybe but fee should be small. Have worked as a carpenter, plumber and residential electrician. 12v dc is not 220v ac and plumbing is not the same as well. Gas is different though leak and we have a problem, maybe then it would be a good idea. Let us do the work and have the local rv or gas people inspect it? In Ontario is is law to have a gas/carbon monoxide detector in the trailer if it has a stove, fridge or propane device in it.
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