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Old 07-25-2014, 09:31 PM   #43
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I like Vivian's original idea, with the channels mounted under the table. All one needs is to drill a hole on each side and place something like a cotter pin (or pin like the door lock uses) to keep the table from sliding further out. During the day, the table is out of sight, and one still has the under area for storage.
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:50 AM   #44
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Photos please, Vivian?

I've wondered about using a "scissor-stand adjustable height base" table like this as an extension. I have no idea if it would support the weight of a person scooting off it. Lifetime Personal Tables - 280056 Black Folding Table 20 x 30 Top
If you go back to pages one & two, I have already posted what I have in pictures and on the second page of posts, I scanned a drawing of the channels. My aim was to have something that just slid out of sight and out of the way and yet let me use that space for storage as well. Flipping the mattress and excess bedding up onto the main bed during the day is all I have to do. And I can tell you with the 2x2 legs that fold down to support the outter end of the extention, once it's out, it ain't going anywhere. I have no need of another table for outside, but if you do, then some of these other ideas will probably work better for you.
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:52 AM   #45
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I like Vivian's original idea, with the channels mounted under the table. All one needs is to drill a hole on each side and place something like a cotter pin (or pin like the door lock uses) to keep the table from sliding further out. During the day, the table is out of sight, and one still has the under area for storage.
You are right Sheryl. I forgot that part. The first time we went on a trip with the new bed, the board slid out during the trip and we had quite a time getting in because our screen door opens in. I used a strap with a snap on it to hold the bed, but yep, yep, cotter pins work. Thanks for reminding me.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:29 AM   #46
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Vivian- how far out past the cabinet does the bed extend?



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Old 07-26-2014, 09:47 PM   #47
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I cut the board almost the same length as the bed width (the old table) so you can pull it out as far as you need to. For us (two semi-shorties) we found that pulling it just to the edge of the closet made it lots long enough for us, especially when you sleep on a bit of an angle. Once I established that, then that's how big I made the little extension mattress. Tall, tall people might want it to come out farther and short, short people might get away with less. That's the beauty of it. As long as you have enough of the bed board still in the channels, you are good to go.
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If you go back to the first page on this thread, I think you might be able to get an idea from one of the pictures, how far out it comes.
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For a Scamp 16' or Casita 16'/17':
- Does anyone have measurements for the max width of these extensions (i.e. distance between the kitchen cabinets and the cabinet on the other side of the trailer).

(Apologies for resurrecting this old thread.)

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Old 03-04-2016, 07:05 AM   #50
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We must be thinking alike, I have been looking for this old thread! I needed to know the same for the eggcamper for future planning for a pullout bed Thanks for bumping this post!
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:19 PM   #51
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For a Scamp 16' or Casita 16'/17':
- Does anyone have measurements for the max width of these extensions (i.e. distance between the kitchen cabinets and the cabinet on the other side of the trailer).

(Apologies for resurrecting this old thread.)
For those interested: I heard back from the folks at Casita. The width of the aisle is 25" in both the 16' and 17' Casitas.
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Old idea resurrected because it makes sense

We've been working on this idea for a few months now while we've been completing the other mods that are required. Well, it's time to address this idea and I was "planning" while in the shower this morning.

I'm thinking that we can rework the existing table configuration with an additional "box" that will be used as the base for the extension. What I mean is this: we want to create the "U" shaped seating against the rear wall of the camper under the back window which means shortening the existing table top to accommodate the added seating.

So, I have been thinking, without taking actual measurements, that we could build a box-in-a-box seat for the back sectional seating. The inside of the box would pull out and be placed on the floor of the isle to support the table top drop down into the slot for the current bed surface. Then the table top would be two layers of plywood with a piano hinge to allow the top for fold over into the isle for the extension resting on top of the box support.

The primary seat box remains against the rear wall as permanent seating as well as the head support for the sleeping area while the second box stores inside the primary box for travel parts/storage like a drawer capitalizing on the storage space gained from the additional booth seating arrangement.

I can see that I would use this wooden box for storing my electrical cords, jack stands and water hose that would be moved outside into "service" while camping and the box would be empty when needed for service as a bed support. I'd draw it up in a picture for illustration but I'm technologically challenged these days.

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seat box size

The actual measurements don't matter as much as you would think because you could make the rear seat "deep" enough to match the height requirements for the box support size for the extension base. I'll be working on this project tonight for a proof of concept but it will be a long construction process for the final project for me because the results, to me, should look like a nice wooden box/cabinet for storage.

Of course, you'll also need the seat cushion for the window box seat as well as the bed extension cushion, but that's easy enough...
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proof of concept

I just completed building a temporary wooden box to use as a test of this method of extending the bed. When Laura get's home from her mother's we'll give this sleeping arrangement a try and see if this solves our problem.

I'd show you a picture but I used old wood and stuff I had on hand so it'd not be much to look at except that it'd be a smallish wooden table. Once we try sleeping in this configuration and it proves worth investing in new materials, I'll include the dimensions and design work as well as pictures.

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I think I follow what you are talking about. Things that come to mind:
1) For an extension of this type (no modification of the side cabinets, heads at the back of the trailer) both people will need to sleep with their feet/legs in a single "slot" about 24" wide. Opinions will differ, but IMO that probably won't provide much improvement in comfort.
2) The added "box" sounds like a lot of bulk to be stored and muscled around for what it accomplishes (just supporting the bed extension). Could you achieve the same result with a hinged addition to the standard tabletop (to provide the additional horizontal surface area for cushions) and 1 or 2 simple screw-in legs on the end? 2" Schedule 40 PVC would probably work fine. Just an idea.
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I think I follow what you are talking about. Things that come to mind:
1) For an extension of this type (no modification of the side cabinets, heads at the back of the trailer) both people will need to sleep with their feet/legs in a single "slot" about 24" wide. Opinions will differ, but IMO that probably won't provide much improvement in comfort.
2) The added "box" sounds like a lot of bulk to be stored and muscled around for what it accomplishes (just supporting the bed extension). Could you achieve the same result with a hinged addition to the standard tabletop (to provide the additional horizontal surface area for cushions) and 1 or 2 simple screw-in legs on the end? 2" Schedule 40 PVC would probably work fine. Just an idea.
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We successfully tested this concept on our first camping trip and the space provided was ample for both of us. However, you are right about the weight and bulk. I moved this box into and out of the camper for two days because it would have proven too much for my wife to move more than a time or two by herself. The size was very useful as a food prep table outside but it became another task to accomplish getting ready for bed.

That doesn't mean that the concept is bad, but rather the design of the first prototype was off a little. I like where you're going with the PVC materials because it would be a lot lighter to maneuver but the strength to carry my 220#s of body weight getting into/out of bed would make me wonder about durability.

My original design was to take the scissors lift concept of a portable table and use a hinged table top that would fold out into the extended position but the two spaces are of different sizes and the weight of a double thickness table top becomes unruly as well.


Back to the drawing board...what about 1/2" plywood with PVC legs that could be screwed onto a fitting for setup using a male adapter and flange? I wonder if the plywood would be strong enough to carry 300#s without the addition of side rails for structural support? Also, could you divide the 24" X 24" plywood into two sections and join them in the center with a piano hinge to make it easier to store away during the day? Humm....
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