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Old 05-29-2011, 10:52 PM   #15
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The foot well under the rear bed in our Trillium measures 28"x13.5"x36". We found that two 60 quart storage containers fit well. One for me one for my wife for clothes. I pop riveted two straps to mine so it can be pulled out. We keep the rear bed set up all the time and use the front dinette for eating, playing cards, etc.
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Old 05-30-2011, 04:08 PM   #16
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Believe it or not those rear boxes greatly increase the tendency for sway. It can be masked with an anti-sway bar, but it's still there. I'm glad you won't be adding much weight to the rear of your trailer.
I had a rear storage box on my Boler and had no problems at all with sway, which I attributed to towing very slightly down and making sure we had enough tongue weight.

I think that a tendency to sway depends mostly on your tongue weight. Adding weight behind the axle can increase sway if it reduces your tongue weight below the recommended 10 - 15 percent of overall weight. However, if you take care to make sure the tongue weight is not too light, then you should not see any increase in sway, all else being equal.

Sway also is more likely if you tow high, that is with the hitch high enough that the trailer is tilted toward the rear. You should ideally tow level, or else with the trailer nose slightly down rather than up.


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Old 05-30-2011, 06:13 PM   #17
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I had a rear storage box on my Boler and had no problems at all with sway, which I attributed to towing very slightly down and making sure we had enough tongue weight.

I think that a tendency to sway depends mostly on your tongue weight. Adding weight behind the axle can increase sway if it reduces your tongue weight below the recommended 10 - 15 percent of overall weight. However, if you take care to make sure the tongue weight is not too light, then you should not see any increase in sway, all else being equal.

Sway also is more likely if you tow high, that is with the hitch high enough that the trailer is tilted toward the rear. You should ideally tow level, or else with the trailer nose slightly down rather than up.


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I saw a demonstration a few years ago where they had the weight over the axles then moved the weights to front and back. The tongue weight didn't change, but the speed at which uncontrolled sway happened was much much lower. You're right that with too little weight on the tongue the speed at which sway happens is very low.
Note what I was saying speed/sway. There's a direct link. All trailers will go into sway at some speed. The trick is to keep that point high and your towing speed low. When ever you add weight to the rear even though you add weight to front to compensate you've still lowered the speed at which sway happens.
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Old 07-09-2011, 09:23 PM   #18
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I have been busy but have been camping a little... I haven't had a chance to build a locker yet. But I did put a full sized mattress right on top of the cushions on the rear dinette. I have to say it was the best sleep I have had yet. With the cushions I could feel where the cushions came together... The feel of a real mattress. And the added height made getting in and out so much easier. No box spring. Just the mattress. I think I can take out the cushions since I won't be making the bed into a dinette since I added the front dinette... It is still amazing to me how much room there are in these little eggs. Mine is a 4500 and bigger than the 1300 but plenty of room to sleep.. stand..move around...eat.. ect Randy
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One has to be careful when adding more storage space behind the axle. Adding weight back there will increase sway tendencies.
Byron, you mentioned sway. We had the gaucho and backrest/topbunk removed along with the fiberglass sofa frame. In it's stead we had a wood floor installed (to attach the new 2-person dinette seats and table). It's the same size as the plywood that was in the backrest. Naturally there is also the 2x2" wood framing for the two seats, the table top (will drop down to make single bed) and pedestal base. I doubt there is more than 40-50 lbs of added weight. We will have the Thetford 135 toilet under one of the new seats but will not have any water in it when in transit.

Do we need to worry about adding weight / stuff elsewhere in the trailer to offset this added weight. (We have no battery on the hitch nor do we plan to add one to the battery box.)

Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
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