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Old 01-31-2015, 01:54 PM   #1
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Boat Foam backed Headliner material vs Ensolite?

I'm starting to research materials to use in my trillium other than the ensolite. Has anyone used foam backed headliner material. It's normally used for boats but has all the properties I'm looking for. Easy to install (3M spray on), mold & mildew resistant, durable & easy to clean, also fire retardant. I can't think of any negatives. Everyone it seems to me is sold on using the ensolite product. But I'm wondering about other products.
Any thought would be appreciated.


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Old 01-31-2015, 03:39 PM   #2
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I'm not sure what the material is you are referring to. Could you post some information or a link?

I am personally sold on Scamp's current method, which consists of a layer of foil-bubble insulation (like Reflectix) covered with marine hull liner fabric. It's a two-stage process, but the materials appear to be relatively easy to work with, widely available, and reasonably priced. It feels warm and soft to the touch, resists stains, mildew, and condensation, and is very durable.

I'm not sure what Escape uses, but it's some kind of foam-backed vinyl. Owners praise its durability and washability.

By most accounts I've read, Ensolite is more challenging to install. It's worth preserving if you already have it, but not the material of choice if starting over from scratch.

The real question is why you want to change if your Trillium already has Ensolite. You're looking at a major project to remove the old, clean the surface, and install something different. There's a lot that can be done to clean, patch, and improve the appearance of the existing Ensolite.
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Old 02-02-2015, 07:22 AM   #3
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marine headliner

In the fall I removed all that Ensolite. in the meantime I have done my research to find that marine headliner and hull liner is a nice product. I feel that the headliner material will be a beautiful and durable finish to my Boler that I have gone ahead and bough enough to do the job. In fact it should arrive tomorrow or wednesday. On all the lower areas like below bench and inside cupboards I will be using a hull liner type material (stuff they use on boom boxes and subwoofers etc). I had a tour of the Escape trailer factory back in September. They use Reflectix type materials their insulation but the cover material escapes me. Check out the escape forum and see if anyone there can give you a little more insight as to what they use.
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Old 02-02-2015, 08:16 AM   #4
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I'm interested in the process,too. My Trillium came to me with no liner, painted inside. My wife repainted with a tinted binder/primer- mostly to change the color from dark grey. I'm still a little worried whether the glue will stick.

That job is a ways off, I guess. First i have to reset all the windows.


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Old 02-02-2015, 11:28 AM   #5
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I'm interested too. My Trillium has the original ensolite and it is in reasonable shape, but I am putting in a Queen bed and some of the bare wall is revealed. I could order some ensolite, but if something more comfortable and pleasing came along I would go with it. The ensolite makes me feel like I've been sent to the rubber room. I think I may take your lead and go look at the marine products. I wonder about bonding a marine headliner over the ensolite??


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Old 02-02-2015, 09:07 PM   #6
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Headliner arrived

Well it's here. Enough headliner material to complete the entire interior of my boler. The foam is not as dense as ensolite and the cover material is more of a material. It reminds me of the headliner in my Toyota Sienna van. I will admit that it will not likely be as durable as the ensolite but I don't have any kids that may bang or mark it up. I do believe it will be more cosy and have a warmer feeling to it as opposed to the rubber like feel I got from the ensolite. i want the boler to be comfortable and inviting. I will post pics once it is installed. That may not be for another month if it stays this cold for much longer.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:26 PM   #7
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Can't wait to see the pictures! Slimmit are you using any insulation? What company did you order from?
I'm trying to track down the material I had initially found that was headliner material with a foam backing.
There are a few videos I've been looking at that is the 3M adhesive, what do you plan on using?
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:35 PM   #8
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After reading some forum bits on the reflectix, it would appear not worth the money, so no I'm not planning any insulation. I originally found the marine headliner at sail rite in the US. However I found a distributor in Midland Ontario that sells similar. The place is called JT's outdoor fabrics and the headliner is sunbrite 60" wide. Many many colours to choose from. Probably gonna look at the same distributor for the cushion material too.
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Old 02-02-2015, 09:39 PM   #9
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Ok found it. I realized just now it's a UK company but I'm sure I could order it in.

http://www.toomerandhayter.co.uk/products/?cat=2

There are a few reasons I want to change out the ensolite, first it's coming off/torn in place (previous owner tried removing some & gave up), plain looking, I'd like something a bit more comfortable (warmer-totally feels like a rubber padded room). I want to rewire the trailer as well so to do that it would have to come off.

I figure if it's good on a boat it'll work perfect in a trailer, especially in our NW climate.


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Old 02-02-2015, 09:42 PM   #10
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Gonna use 3m super 77 spray adhesive
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:42 PM   #11
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Hi did a Reno on my boler two years ago using reflextic and hull liner. The reflextic stayed on great on the walls but had to recluse the roof as it seems to be heating up in the sun but after using industrial glue from the car shop everything was good. The hull liner is great it is stain mold and mildew resistant and goes on easy. I picked this up at the marine shop. Boler is plenty warm and no issues so far.



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Fay I'm considering using hull liner as well. Nice to hear you've had good luck with. What type of industrial glue did you use?


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For gluing up headliners I suggest finding a local auto upholstery shop and find out what they use when hanging headliners. For the most part, at least in Southern California, common spray glues, like 3M, are not the weapons of choice.
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I have two thoughts the 3m super 77 was great for the walls when gluing the reflextic but did not work well on the roof. I went to my local auto glass shop that does upholstery and they sold me some of their industrial glue. This worked the biggest problem is the heat that generates on the roof. If you are insulating and I recommend you do just make sure that the bond is good before adding the hull liner.
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