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Old 05-31-2007, 04:36 PM   #29
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Looking good---How hard to install insulation / headliner?
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Old 05-31-2007, 04:37 PM   #30
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[quote]Floor is almost done. Still missing some mouldings and have to size the doors to fit still....


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HERB- - -looks good. But I gotta ask ya--I didn't know you had put a loft in-is that where that ladder leads to???? Larry
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:43 PM   #31
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Looking good---How hard to install insulation / headliner?
It was a nightmare. Well, a daymare anyway... My dad and I worked for about 12 hours from bare fiberglass shell, to complete (modulo 2 hours of trimming and cosmetic cleanup the next day). The glue that Joe sold us gives you no margin for error. If you get a piece placed wrong and let it grab hold of something, then when you try to peel it back off, you end up with both sides of the glue in one place and you have to respray the other 'half' again. The insulation part was very unforgiving but since it was only the insulation, we could be as patchy as we wanted... The headliner however, was very sensitive to alignment, and apparently had a 'direction' component too (some of the headliner looks dark/light depending on which way you're looking, however it had a little more give. ie: it could be stretched about a half inch to meet a seam... I thought the 1700 would be easier than a 1300 due to not really having any compound curves (all the compound curves already had furniture on them), but it turns out there are just enough compound curves to really frustrate. Namely the raised center roof section. If you start on one edge, then the roof section screws up your panel and you're out about an inch by the time you get across it...

The whole experience was most unpleasant. The result that Joe gets on the Outback is far better than what I got; but my neighbors all say what we ended up with looks professional.. I guess I can see all the flaws because I know where they are.
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:45 PM   #32
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HERB- - -looks good. But I gotta ask ya--I didn't know you had put a loft in-is that where that ladder leads to????
That's for the rooftop patio.

Actually, it's for the bunkbed.

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Old 05-31-2007, 06:46 PM   #33
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Thanks Herb for feed back on Insolation and Headliner install
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:43 PM   #34
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Another additional bit of progress...

Finished the electrical work. I have a (presently slightly undersized for the inverter) feed coming in through a fusible link, to a 30A main breaker, and from there to a breaker/switch panel. The solar charger also connects to the 30A main breaker (panel side) and the inverter goes between main breaker and fusible link. Everything is protected theoretically.


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Looks a little disorganized but everything is labelled, and strapped together in manageable groups.... The coil on the floor is the wiring from the 7 pin trailer connector.
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:45 PM   #35
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No new pictures yet. This week/weekend was spent on little things. Clean all the windows with a toothbrush and hot water/varsol... The right thing to do here would have been to dismantle all the windows when I had them out to reseal them but this works ok too... Rebuilt a couple of screens that were broken/stretched/oxidized.. The big job was wiring up a hoppy 4->7 connector in the truck plus installing the prodigy and running 8ga charging wire from one of the truck batteries to the plug. I tested all the lights on the trailer plus the brakes, and took it for a spin.. The brakes seem to work well, though I don't know what to expect having never had them before...

Lots of little teeny detail jobs were done this weekend. It's amazing how the loose ends all pile up into a gargantuan amount of work. I broke a plumbing fitting so I'll have to fix some of that before I fire up the plumbing...

Only 4 more days before we go camping the first time... Getting tight.
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:40 PM   #36
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Finally got through a substantial portion of the list just in time for our first planned camping trip...

Here's my little one up in the upper bunk. He liked it up there but the mattress was a little hard...


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This was 'camp', such as it was. We didn't get the new awning in time so I just threw a tarp up over part of the trailer.. Turns out to have been a good thing since it rained most of the time we were there ....


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Then on Sunday early morning (2:30 AM, we heard some cracking, and then a thunk/slide.. Looked like the weight of the water from the rain took down the tarp. oh well. 6:30 AM, I woke up to find I couldn't open the trailer door. Here's what happened:
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...I moved the gazebo thingy under the tarp the night before just so it would dry off and I could pack it up easier the next morning... That night it started snowing. The weight of the heavy snow broke the tarp lines and dropped the tarp down on top of the gazebo which promptly buckled and became pinned against the door of the trailer. I could only open the door about 2 inches. I couldn't move it with my hand through the slot in the door. So I told Shari/Jakob that we may as well make our final phone calls because we had been buried alive... Just when I'd lost the will to live, I remembered the dinette window. I got out my trusty jack knife and started hacking away at the gazebo through the window, started pulling on pipes and other assorted carnage, until finally, I was able to open the door just wide enough for my svelte physique to glide through... The cracking I heard was the trees breaking and falling down... So I got my wits about me and started dismantling camp. I had to move several tons of wet slushy snow to free the tarp and shove its dripping wetness into the back of the truck, along with the rest of camp. Shari and jakob in the meantime luxuriated in the warm confines of the trailer as well as packed up.. By 8:00AM, we were on the road. The roads were icy and the trailer really wanted to spend another night in the ditch but I fought it and got us back on the highway...
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:36 AM   #38
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So I told Shari/Jakob that we may as well make our final phone calls because we had been buried alive...
Isn't camping fun?

Well, glad you got out and used your new toy. And Jakob looks so very cute with his teddy bear in the bunk! I suppose you'll be driving further south for your next camping trip, no?

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Old 06-18-2007, 06:56 AM   #39
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The weight of the heavy snow broke the tarp lines and dropped the tarp down on top of the gazebo which promptly buckled and became pinned against the door of the trailer.

Shari and jakob in the meantime luxuriated in the warm confines of the trailer as well as packed up.. By 8:00AM, we were on the road.
YEOW! And people wonder why little trailers need an egress window or roof vent...just imagine if it would have been a tree blocking the door.

Snow and all, it appears the trailer is the ticket to keep the family warm and dry

Well, you did want to make memories
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...And people wonder why little trailers need an egress window or roof vent...just imagine if it would have been a tree blocking the door.
The egress window in my B1700RGH is the rear one, over the gaucho. It's just a normal horizontal slider, but it is the largest, and is designated as the emergency exit by a label. It would be an awkward exit, but I'd take it rather than stay in a fire, for instance.

I don't know if the Side Gaucho B1700 has a similarly designated window, but the street side dinette window looks like the same size (and type) as my rear window.
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The egress window in my B1700RGH is the rear one, over the gaucho. It's just a normal horizontal slider, but it is the largest, and is designated as the emergency exit by a label. It would be an awkward exit, but I'd take it rather than stay in a fire, for instance.

I don't know if the Side Gaucho B1700 has a similarly designated window, but the street side dinette window looks like the same size (and type) as my rear window.
The kitchen window on the side gaucho is designated as the emergency exit though I tried to lift the glass panel out and couldn't...

I'm pretty sure I could find multiple ways out of the trailer in the event of a real emergency. Back window included...

So far, this trailer is proving to be a real source of 'learning experiences'.
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The kitchen window on the side gaucho is designated as the emergency exit though I tried to lift the glass panel out and couldn't...
Given that the kitchen is along the street side, this is the same window which I referred to as the street side dinette window; we seem to be on the same track.

I don't think the panes lift out readily - I assume that they just expect you to go out the normally opening part. It's not like the real egress windows as found in buses (and modern RVs?), in which a red handle releases the whole thing to swing out.
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