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Old 07-31-2012, 02:39 AM   #1
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Boler front door security

So my other newbie question is what do you all use for securing the front door? I mean, even with it locked, anybody can just grab the top and rip the door down. There has to be something to beef up the front door. I've seen pics of a bar and lock across the front. And I've seen some big ol' RV's with a hinged bar and lock thing. What's some ideas?

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Old 07-31-2012, 06:15 AM   #2
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So my other newbie question is what do you all use for securing the front door? I mean, even with it locked, anybody can just grab the top and rip the door down. There has to be something to beef up the front door. I've seen pics of a bar and lock across the front. And I've seen some big ol' RV's with a hinged bar and lock thing. What's some ideas?

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And oh ya, pics coming soon of my 75 Boler.
Hi: brownrecluse... Funny thing about doors and locks. They're only for honest people!!! The others will get in no matter what obstacles you may use. We just used the keys and the old Bargman L400 lock...and never had a problem.
Spiders will get in even if the door is locked!!!
Campers and fiberglass campers in particular are the nicest people you could ever meet!!!
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:02 AM   #3
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Not sure about the front door security, but on a trailer that size you could likely put a permanent bar on the back door, as it would not likely be needed.

As Alf said, security is just to keep the honest folks out. If someone really wants in, they will get in, through a window, or quite quickly with a battery operated saw. I tend not to worry about that kinda stuff, as karma will take care of the perpetrators.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:18 AM   #4
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So you're worried about the door? How about bars on the windows and grating across the roof vent? Folks who want in, will get in. Buy good insurance. Frankly, I worry more about my home than I do my trailer. YMMV
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Old 08-04-2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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Maybe you all are getting the wrong idea. I dont think i phrased the question correct. I'm not losing sleep over this. And I'm not worried about someone determined to break out the sawsall and climb in the roof vent. Since I'll be living inside temporarily and I'll have some important stuff inside, I'd just like to secure the front door a tad bit. It could be ripped off its hinges with the door locked. More against the casual theft from a methhead walking past when it's parked in Santa Cruz while I'm out surfing. I'm sure somebody has tangible ideas other than philosophical dreams. I'm a big fan of preparing rather than hoping.
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Jeff, there has actually been whole door thefts. The hinges are a bigger problem than the lockset side. I think the more you try to secure something the more valuable folks think it might be. That's why a bunch of folks I know who ride REALLY EXPENSIVE bicycles, paint them some horrible color. If what you own is irreplacable or too expensive to replace or uninsurable... have you considered a safety deposit box at a bank?

Whatever you come up with for your trailer, I'll hope you share pictures

WOW, this turned out to be post 16,000 for me (this go around)... what a mouth!
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More against the casual theft from a methhead walking past when it's parked in Santa Cruz while I'm out surfing.
Simple, lock your valuables in the trunk of your vehicle.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #8
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Roy, once again, I stated that I will have some important stuff inside. Can't have everything in the trunk. The question wasn't about where to store stuff. I could always get a storage unit, but that isn't going to work in my case.

I will state this question as clearly as possible....are there any ideas about making the front door, and only the front door, more secure? I'm not asking about securing the windows. Im not asking about securing vents. I'm not asking about hoping people don't break in. I'm not asking about building a faraday cage around the whole rig and bolting it to a dozen ravenous pit bulls. I'm not asking about securing anything other than the front door. I'm just trying to find a real tangible (non philosophical) idea. Please don't answer if you don't have a product suggestion or actually metal work kind of idea. Please don't tell me I should weed out stuff, or not worry about it. In my case, I must.

Thank you ahead of time for anybody who gets what I'm tryng to do.
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There is a picture of a renovation (a before photo I believe) that has a bar across the outside of the door bolted on the hinge side...not certain how it was attached on the opposite (lock) side. Nor do I recall who posted it. But it may provide food for thought. My sister tells me that when the folks had a trailer business they were told by police that keeping everything closed up and giving the appearance that you have something valuable to protect is akin to waving a red flag before a bull. Still, as I travel with my notebook and don't want it in our car in a shopping mall parking lot when I'm not there, I can appreciate your concerns. Look forward to hear your solution.
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You can always booby-trap the door with a bucket of hot tar. Or better yet, get a big scary dog to guard your trailer when you are away.

But seriously, I think any visible metal bar or lock system is going to just draw attention to you. You could probably rig up a metal bar that goes across the door, making it difficult to open. The problem is that anything you put on is going to be mounted into fiberglass, and fiberglass can be easily defeated with minimal force.

Another option might be a simple alarm system with a basic motion detector. You can get something simple for a few bucks. It won't prevent a break in, but if a thief hears the noise they might be inclined to leave more quickly.
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I bought a magnet switch alarm mounted on the hinge side of the door(inside). It has a 45 second delay to exit and 30 second to enter. Yes, it can easily be torn off the wall, but in my small trailer, someone breaking in will get a good headache before he stomps it out. I'm going to make a lockbox under the front bench in the future(all for my own peace of mind).
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There is a picture of a renovation (a before photo I believe) that has a bar across the outside of the door bolted on the hinge side...not certain how it was attached on the opposite (lock) side. Nor do I recall who posted it.
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The problem is that anything you put on is going to be mounted into fiberglass, and fiberglass can be easily defeated with minimal force.
It is mine Bonnie, done by a previous owner and I left it that way. The pole runs through eye bolts on either side of the door which go through metal plates on the inside. It would take a bit more than minimal force to tear a chunk of fiberglass out that big.

I use the bar parked here in the big city and during winter storage. We don't use it while camping. When we first got the trailer it used to keep the door closed while travelling, till that problem got fixed.
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Thanks Roy.

My son bought a small alarm that he attaches to the patio door in a house they rent in Florida each March so they will know if the kids are out near the pool from WalMart: Mace Wireless Door/Window Sensor, Wireless Door Security System, Mace Home Security System, Alarm Door Sensor It wouldn't stop folks from entering but coupled with a sign indicating that there is an alarm system it may discourage thieves.
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On 02-27-2012 Norm (honda03842) submitted a post "Handle and Deadbolt"
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I really like the handle. He simply screwed it into the inner fiberglass panel with some fair sized wood screws that only penetrate the inner panel. The dead bolt mounts in a painted wooden block that is also screwed to the inner fiberglass panel. The block simply provides the appropriate thickness for a normal home dead bolt.
You may want to contact Norma and find out more about it.


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