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Old 04-21-2013, 10:27 PM   #15
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glenn-with my propane stove and lantern i can see and hear the propane coming out...its not in lines somewhere buried in the camper. and i dont have to freak and search every time an alarm goes off to figure out why it is going off..battery? or real leak? i use it outside on a sturdy table...and i'm used to it.

as far as packing things...i dont carry anything hardly at all. what i carry i can put in back seat of the car -that should not affect TW...correct?

so-if i have 2 tanks i am carrying 80 lbs right there on the tongue? no wonder my camper TW is 365. just taking out the propane will bring me down to 325?

mike and donna-thats what i thought too...but getting bugs in the appliances doesnt sound like a good thing. it never occured to me that would happen. i dont want to break things.

so-if i take only one off do i have to do what rabbit said-i havent used the water heater in 2 yrs. i did the thing so water wouldnt go in there during the winter and never put it back. does that mean it is full of bugs and ruined? is there really a thing called mothballing? will my rv guy know what that is?

i just spray around the vents on the outside if i see anything flying around...so far the only thing i have seen inside is one very large spider...in the bed...that was not good. but in 2 yrs that isnt much.

i do agree when i am around others using propane i might start to use it more. the first rv guy i had check out the camper and winterize it showed me everything and i used all but the water heater a little...but the alarms started going off and the heater kept coming on when it was hot already...i finally figured that out...but it was stressful.

until i understand it better i'd rather not have it. i'm almost always alone...so til things change i want to feel safer. and i really dont want to break things.

hey-listen-thanks for taking time to reply. my questions are real-even tho i guess these are things i should already know. i feel i am getting better answers here than from most of the rv shops around here...there are very few small campers here and everyone needs to make a buck to stay in business.

so thanks for being here and your time. k.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:24 PM   #16
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Take them off but be carefull you don't lighten your tongue to much especially if your water tank is in the rear.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:19 AM   #17
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If you remove the tank you should remove the hoses too so they aren't flopping around. Removing both tanks won't take off 80lbs from your tongue weight, because they aren't sitting right on top of the ball, I would guess you will save 40-60lbs tongue weight for both. I had my tongue on a bathroom scale, and removing one propane tank reduced the weight by 20lbs. Removing the battery cut 40 lbs, but the battery is in front of the propane on my trailer.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:46 AM   #18
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Our Scamp came with dual tanks , one was 100% full the other 90% full . PO said he had filled them 3 years earlier . After our first year one tank was still 100% full other tank was 75 % full .We decided to remove one tank . Carrying around a full tank of propane for possibly 8 to 10 years made no sense . Used the gas up on our grill
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I'd take off the tanks and the hose, then plug the hole where the hose was attached with a pipe plug. You may well decide that you want the propane appliances once you get more comfortable with their operation.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:45 AM   #20
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so-if i take only one off do i have to do what rabbit said-i haven't used the water heater in 2 yrs. i did the thing so water wouldn't go in there during the winter and never put it back. does that mean it is full of bugs and ruined? is there really a thing called mothballing? will my rv guy know what that is?

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If you have emptied the hot water tank & it has the plug in it its not likely full of bugs or ruined.

What can happen with propane appliances such as hot water tanks, furnaces and stoves etc is that spiders get into the propane burner or vent pipes. Just a little spider web can mean the appliance will not light or stay light. It is fixable - by taking them apart and cleaning them out- sometimes it takes nothing more than poking a pipe cleaner through those areas to fix the problem.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:39 PM   #21
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Take both tanks off and buy a propane plug to put in the end to seal off the gase lines. Then secure then lines so they are not rattling around getting broken. Problem solved.

I bought a 5lb propane tank and that lasts me a long time of just using the stove and reduced the tongue weight considerably. Adding weight to ass of the camper will reduce tongue weight, but will make the trailer more unstable while towing.
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Old 04-22-2013, 01:39 PM   #22
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Nothing wrong about taking the tanks off if you do not use them or if you would like to reduce your trailer weight. If you do that, why not go a bit further and also remove one or all of those appliances that operate on propane (stove, water heater, furnace, fridge, etc). You would achieve further weight reductions and could also put the appliances into safe storage from which they could be reinstalled at some future date if required. For the piping, add end caps when you disconnect the tanks and appliances to keep the water and crawlies out.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:10 PM   #23
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thankyou thankyou thankyou...i needed some good news. steve especially-you are the first to address the question of does propane still work when it is old...

and carol...the heater was done right so i can stop worrying about that. and all the other things rabbit scared me about in the beginning...altho he later calmed me down some.

the wires that go to the tanks are tied down pretty well. the rv guy said it would be easy to close them off to keep them clean...maybe i can cover vents from outside.

i have thought of removing water heater and furnace i agree with someone else on here who uses elec heater cuz propane is noisy. i dont need heat til its below 40 anyway. but i guess it depends how hard it is to remove them.

i like the idea of the little propane tank too...that makes a lot of sense.
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Removing both tanks won't take off 80lbs from your tongue weight, because they aren't sitting right on top of the ball, I would guess you will save 40-60lbs tongue weight for both.
The tanks are not right at the ball, but they're about 85% of the way there... at least a lot more than 50%.
On the other hand, if you left them on and didn't use them, I doubt you would leave them full, so consider what you are comparing to: was 365 pounds with full propane?

Finally, empty 20lb-capacity propane tanks are typically about 18 pounds empty. That's only a couple of pounds less than mentioned earlier, and tank hold-down hardware and hoses could weigh more than that.
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If you haven't used the propane appliances since 2007 any bugs that are going to get in are already there.

Take off the tanks, brackets, etc, plug the hose and forget about it. I'd bet you will lighten the tongue load by 50-60#.

You want to be sure the tongue weight is 10% or more of total trailer weight, though. If too little load is on the tongue the trailer will be prone to swaying.

PS, Lil Snoozys don't have propane. We have been camping happily for four months with electric only plus a little butane gas hot plate and a small propane grill on the picnic table outside.

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Old 04-23-2013, 11:07 PM   #26
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thx again. the propane has been used a little for the furnace, stove , water heater and i think once for the fridge ... but very little. but the hoses were never unhooked...

my neighbor is going to use up the propane with his camper and grill...so i know i will get the tanks back. and i guess i'll just store them in case i decide to sell the camper or go back to using more propane.

im assuming the tongue weight casita gives of 365 is with full tanks...but i didnt weigh it and i know that could be wrong...i sure hope my TW isnt close to 400 or i am really in trouble.

i should have the wdh tomorrow and hope to see what difference it makes...i'll ask about weighing...but that seems pretty complicated to me...should i just follow the semis onto the scales? does it cost money? i have a feeling i'll end up with someone yelling at me again. hopefully i will be a lot more level with the wdh and after that can empty propane, possibly fill water tank some and /or load stuff on the bed in the back.

denny-that sounds like what i have been doing with the heater and little stoves
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It looks like the dry weight includes the two propane tanks as they are a stand feature not an option.
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