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Old 03-08-2007, 08:14 AM   #15
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what does this 'mystery rib" do?

Roof support? Talk to Adam? Kepp your feet from escaping?

If the answer is NOT #1, leave it out.. looks very open without it!
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:00 AM   #16
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Are you going to the Oregon Gathering?
Yes. We're in space A7 or A9. I think. Something like that. Nice to be totally clear on the subject . . .

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Old 03-08-2007, 10:51 AM   #17
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what does this 'mystery rib" do?
I called Scamp about the original ribs, which were 10"x3" wide at the inboard base feathered out to match the forward curve of the trailer over the gaucho. They are structural, and having taken them out I think I see what they do: stiffen the flexible fiberglass sides of the long run between the kitchen and the front of the trailer to help support the roof. After seeing this modified my rib design to include a foot that's 2x8" wide instead of 3/8x3-1/2".

I'm making the best of the rib, though. It'll integrate into the longer overhead cabinets I'm going to make, supporting them and acting as the end-cap on the curb side, and I'll add another, informal support just forward of the curb and street side windows to create a box/valance kind of thing around the windows for a blackout blind, curtains and pockets at the bottom for magazines and other goodies.

The roof will also be supported by a street-side 13" wide half length hang space closet at the foot of the bed that'll run from the bed deck to the ceiling.



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Old 03-08-2007, 02:33 PM   #18
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I think the rib, is the reason Nancy and Mike had these cabinets built:
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:28 PM   #19
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I think the rib, is the reason Nancy and Mike had these cabinets built
They likely serve the same function, rib-wise. Design-wise Lynne and I decided extending the upper cabinets on each side and leaving the rest of the space as open as possible would be nice. If we decide storage is more important at some later date we can always add the cabinets in later.

We're also installing a "european" or " RV" queen bed, 60x75 inches instead of a "standard" 60x78 inch queen and building two steps instead of Nancy & Mike's three so we can make a larger bottom step that can also serve as a sitting spot for dressing & pulling shoes on and off.

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Old 03-08-2007, 07:42 PM   #20
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... a "european" or " RV" queen bed, 60x75 inches instead of a "standard" 60x78 inch queen...
In every reference I have seen to real (not RV) bed sizes, a Queen is 60"x[b]80" (e.g. size tables from the first Google hit for "queen bed dimensions"). Some RV makers are pretty loose about their terminology; I think businesses which are selling a product which doesn't match a real standard size should just list the dimensions for clarity.

Whatever the name, 60" x 75" should be a nice bed.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:15 PM   #21
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Whatever the name, 60" x 75" should be a nice bed.
A bed length of 75" might not work for taller folks. We're both 5'8" so this shorter length will work well for us. We played around with a tape measure in our own traditional queen-sized bed to make sure the shorter length would be comfortable for both of us (this sounds more, ahem, "interesting" than it really was).

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In every reference I have seen to real (not RV) bed sizes, a Queen is 60"x[b]80" (e.g. size tables from the first Google hit for "queen bed dimensions").
See above post about what space we're in at the Oregon Gathering. Some people are numerically challenged Thanks goodness Peter believes in measure twice, write it down, check it again and THEN cut.

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Old 03-19-2007, 10:56 AM   #22
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And the update continues. Last week and weekend I finished the loft deck substructure, put in the steps, the dog kennel floor, the laundry hamper sides & bottom, cut the deck, and ordered a memory foam mattress.


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The dog kennel substructure. I've installed wiring under the bathroom for 12v & 120v plugs and for a wireless LAN antenna.

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The floor of the kennel has storage underneath. There's a strut under the removable temperboard floor panel so it doesn't sag under our 60+ pound poodle.

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And with the floor down.

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Steps up are in. Drawers will go under the deck and middle step. A tool and setup stuff chest will live under the bottom step with room at the front to kick off your shoes.

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"Big" chest of drawers area with laundry hamper off to one side.

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The laundry hamper (and all of the dividers) are pegboard

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And here's what it looks like now.
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wow.. looking good! makes me jealous! LOL did you say you would do mine too?
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Pup Pup gets his/her own room???? How cool is that?!!!!!

Back off Christi, he has to build my rottens a room first.

You ARE bringing your tools to Bandon, right, Peter?
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Pup Pup gets his/her own room???? How cool is that?!!!!!

Back off Christi, he has to build my rottens a room first.

You ARE bringing your tools to Bandon, right, Peter?
I was thinking I'd bring a vacuform jig . . .

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Old 03-20-2007, 08:32 AM   #26
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Back off Christi, he has to build my rottens a room first.

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Old 03-29-2007, 01:51 AM   #27
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Not a lot of progress on the loft remodel this week. My 81-year-old-dad was having chest pains and wound up in surgery for a quadruple bypass surgery. He is doing well (thank you), but I've spent a lot of time with him and my mom the last week.

I did make four drawers (but not the drawer fronts) and the new memory-foam mattress arrived in the mail.


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These drawers are made differently from most drawers. I used thin (4mm) plywood for the sides, back and bottom so that the drawers lightweight but still be strong. Bits of wood in the corners support glue seams for the panels and will (eventually) provide a glue surface to attach the fronts too.

The bottom panel is glued flush across the bottom of the drawer. Usually they're inset in a groove 3/8" up on the drawer sides, but that would allow stuff in the drawer below to shift while the trailer is moving and wedge itself under the drawer above. The flush-bottom will (hopefully) prevent that. (And, for the drawer makers out there, because the sides and bottom are the same material, they'll all expand and contract at the same rate, so the bottom doesn't have to be free-floating.

And the mattress arrived It's sitting up in the loft so the foam can expand. Tomorrow or Friday I'll cut it with an electric turkey carver knife so it conforms to the curve at the front of the trailer and to match the planned 75" RV-Queen form factor.

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Old 04-26-2007, 11:04 PM   #28
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Family issues and school have kept me from doing as much as I would have liked on our Scamp 5er, but there has been progress. The loft platform is installed and glued into place with (some) of its trim, the loft ribs have been installed, and I've made the drawer fronts and added a coat-rack-bar over the laundry hamper. I'm hoping to get the carpet onto the steps and in Lex's dog kennel/bed area before tomorrow's Oregon Spring Gathering . . .


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The new drawer fronts are 1/4" Poplar guled on an "O" shaped piece of masonite/hardboard with a punched aluminum mesh (From Lowes) center panel. The little black rectangle below the drawer fronts is one end of a plastic belt buckle where the web "belt" that holds the drawers shut while in motion snaps into place.


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The poly strap tucks under the bed matress when we're set up. And you can see the three-hook coat rack and one of the new loft ribs, too.

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