Converting Scamp 5er Loft - Fiberglass RV


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Old 03-04-2007, 12:18 AM   #1
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It has begun. There is no turning back. After seeing Nancy and Mike's Scamp 5th Wheel Standard, which they've redone so the bed runs from front to back instead of side to side, we decided we wanted something similar.

I did the demo work and started fabricating new pieces today . . . shredded the fiberglass gaucho . . . There is no turning back . . .

The last photo is of the old rib support, my cardboard template for a new support (the odd shape at the top will be the new overhead cabinet end), and one of the two new rib supports.

We have gaucho foam pads with like-new fabric if anyone wants them, by the way.

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Gaucho Out

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See the white rib?

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White rib gone! (So's the one on the other side.)

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Oh, there they are!

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Fabricating new plywood ribs using the old rib as a guide for making a cardboard template.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:16 AM   #2
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Hi: ing GOOD!!! Love the pix...I gotta get me a Digi. Cam. too!!! One question though...Whats the green stuff all over your yard Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:35 AM   #3
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Good for you Peter I love Nancy and Mike's 5th Wheel, the idea of getting your head away from the windows and having drawers, extra cupboards AND stairs is stellar. The best part of the side bath 5th wheel is how open and airy it appears. When Reace was gathering information to build the Escape 5th wheel, he spent time talking with Nancy and Mike about how their mods were done. Hence the front-to-back sleeping in the Escape. You should send your patterns to Scamp. The side-to-side sleeping in the 5th wheel is one of the few complaints I hear about from people. The idea of having to crawl over someone to get out of bed has never appealed to me. Ya'd think Scamp would offer this as an option, if in nothing else than the side bath Deluxe model.

Looking forward to seeing your finished pics too


On Edit: Do you have any idea how much this change may be adding to the tongue weight?

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Old 03-04-2007, 07:38 AM   #4
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Looks really good. The Standard Model opened up with Cabinets Like Nancy and Mikes is really cool. Easier to heat and Cool being open compared to the deluxe. That Green stuff could Moss and Mold I am 60 miles to the nw of Peter Alf Here in Soggy Bottom Oregon
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:23 AM   #5
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Hi: ing GOOD!!! Love the pix...I gotta get me a Digi. Cam. too!!! One question though...Whats the green stuff all over your yard Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
We had snow earlier. Just inches of the stuff, Alf. It was awful!

We get that now and again here in the pacific northwest. Of course it all melted away and now all that's left is moss. Soggy moss. With a few blades of anemic grass sticling up through it. I''ll be putting down moss killer & fertilizer soon so some nice healthy weeds can take hold for the rest of the year.

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Old 03-04-2007, 11:44 AM   #6
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[b]On Edit: Do you have any idea how much this change may be adding to the tongue weight?
Not really sure, but that's one of the advantages of a 5th wheel setup. Since the "tounge" weight is centered over the back wheels of the tow vehicle we don't have to be quite so concerned about the weight on the hitch.

Guessing at it, I'll be using about thirty pounds of wood, centered 2/3 of the way from the axle to the hitch. That'd be about 20 pounds construction weight. The memory foam matress will weigh more.

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Old 03-05-2007, 11:44 PM   #7
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Our 5er was also converted to front to back sleeping. Slab doors on 12" high legs were placed so a center isle was between the beds. This allows for extra storage under the beds.
We used some tupperware containers for the storage.

On top of the doors are high density foam mattresses (4" thick) with twin bed memory foam on top of those. It's really comfortable.

Last year we had to crawl over each other to sleep and use the head during the night, now we don't have to.

Since we are also in Portland, your welcome to stop over and check it out if you want

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Old 03-06-2007, 11:11 PM   #8
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The substructure for the loft area is starting to take shape.


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1x2 hemlock lumber -- light and strong -- form the beginnings of the loft platform. The 3/8 prefinished maple plywood piece is the left-hand side of the chest-of-drawers structure that'll hold two 11" tall x 19" wide x 18" deep drawers and two 5" tall x 19" wide x 18" deep drawers.


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Looking forward.

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Our 5er was also converted to front to back sleeping. Slab doors on 12" high legs were placed so a center isle was between the beds. This allows for extra storage under the beds.
We used some tupperware containers for the storage.

On top of the doors are high density foam mattresses (4" thick) with twin bed memory foam on top of those. It's really comfortable.

Last year we had to crawl over each other to sleep and use the head during the night, now we don't have to.

Since we are also in Portland, your welcome to stop over and check it out if you want

Paul
I'd enjoy looking, bt I think it'll wait until one of the gatherings. I pretty much have my battle plans drawn and the construction underway now!

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:31 AM   #10
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Envy...envy...envy...that is looking great. Would you mind posting your plans when you get it all done so others of us could use them? I'd love to eventually do this mod. My wife and I fell in love with Mike and Nancy's mod when we saw it and put in a "hard-wood" floor after seeing theirs.

You don't happen to have the posts and hardware for your bunk bed still? The previous owners of our 19' had removed the couch and put storage cabinets there. I removed them and put it back to normal as it is easier with our kids, but they didn't have the hardware.

I think that we are getting a "cluster" of 19' Scamps here in the PNW.

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Old 03-07-2007, 08:32 AM   #11
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When your all done come up to WA and do mine pleeze!! LOL
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Envy...envy...envy...that is looking great. Would you mind posting your plans when you get it all done so others of us could use them? I'd love to eventually do this mod. My wife and I fell in love with Mike and Nancy's mod when we saw it and put in a "hard-wood" floor after seeing theirs.
I'm not sure if the word "plans" quite apply at this point. Usually I have a plan drawn up before I start a project, but with the Scamp there are almost no pre-existing straight lines, which has made drawing plans more of a challenge. But I'll save my rib template and draw up a rough set when I'm done.

Yes, I have all the hardware for turning the gaucho into a bunk; I'll set it aside and we can hand it off sometime.

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Old 03-07-2007, 11:21 PM   #13
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Yes...there are no "one template fits more than one Scamp".

Are you going to the Oregon Gathering?
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Looking very nice tough to convert our deluxe with front bath. Keep up the great work and keep us posted
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