Egg in Shade II - Fiberglass RV


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Old 08-15-2003, 04:02 PM   #1
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Egg in Shade II

With any luck at all, this version of Egg in Shade won't disappear like the first one.

There are three triangular frames (made of 1/2" PVC-might want four on 16'-17'), sized to allow full hatch opening with Swim Noodle padding. Vertical posts (3/4" PVC) are lashed to spare tire in rear and, sitting on ground, to battery box in front. Tarp corners can be staked directly to ground or poles can be inserted.

This is still a work in progress; I plan to replace the 1/2" Sched 40 PVC with lighter 1/2" PVC sprinker pipe on the triangles and ridgeline piping.

The white tarp came from internet (search "white tarp"). I have two and in extreme heat can lash them together and assemble with gap over ridgeline to allow hot air out and create lots of ground shade.

Pete in the cool RatHaus

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Old 08-15-2003, 08:33 PM   #2
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Excellent!

Pete - Good job!

All last year I kept working on something like that, but finally gave up and erected a King Canopy here at home. What you came with is perfect. Small, lightweight, very portable, etc.

Great work!

Sorry about the earlier post. Every once in a while something glitches and that happens. Were working on it, though.
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Old 08-19-2003, 01:01 AM   #3
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Interesting. I had tried to design something like that but could seem to make it work in my minds eye.

Good for you. Great job.

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Old 08-19-2003, 05:37 AM   #4
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Pete - How did you attach the triangles to the top rod? Do you have a close up pic? I really like the whole idea. May try to make one and use a small sections of doubled up 2x4 with hole drilled in for mounting uprights...1 hole in center if each..then 2 angled outward to support the lower ends. I could then rest or clamp them to the front frame and rear bumper. - Lou C.
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Old 08-19-2003, 07:32 AM   #5
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Okay, I've held off as long as I can.

Can you tell me where that picture was taken, or is that a secret? That looks like a marvelous camping spot.

Of course, my question in still on topic. I'm just asking what the location of this particular egg in the shade is. :r

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Old 08-19-2003, 03:21 PM   #6
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How did old one disappear?

Hey Pete:wave ,

I have just constructed a similar shade/awning for my Scamp 16.

My tarp is 16 x 20 and will extend from 3' behind trailer to about 10' in front (awning) and from end to end. I used steel tent poles from an old cabin tent (garage sale, $7.50, tent had dry rott, threw it away, bought it just for the poles anyway). I too have an upright at each end and a section that goes from end upright to end upright about 2' above trailer roof to allow for vent opening. I also have 6 tent poles, one for each corner and one each center front and back. Evidently you had a problem with the center section above trailer sagging and therefore constructed your triangles for support. My center section is steel and only seams to sag a couple of inches over it's 15' 8" length (although I haven't added the weight of the tarp yet so it may sag a little more). We will be going camping over Labor Day weekend and will put it up for the first time then.

What was the biggest problem with your first attempt? Did the wind take it away or did it collapse under stress or what?

I have a similar contraption that I made to go up over the picnic table at a camp spot and have used it for years with no problems. I will post pictures of both after our camping trip. Unfortunately there is not enough room in my driveway to actually set up my shade/awning to give it a test run so I am hoping for the best when we get to our camp site. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
Thanks . Dan
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Old 08-19-2003, 04:18 PM   #7
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The photos were taken at So Mineral CG in the San Juan NF near Silverton Colorado, an apparently famous summering place for Texans, Arizonians and New Mexicans, judging by the license plates on all the campers' vehicles. It's just short of 9,900' so the weather is not bad when it is baking elsewhere. I am now camping dispersed nearby and the temp went down to 39F last nite. The only real problem is that in late summer, several kinds of flies appear (two kinds bite) and are very annoying. At least they go dormant when the temps drop below 65F.

Shade comments:

The triangles aren't flat; at the end of each diagonal arm I put a T and then connected the two Ts with a very short piece of pipe. If you look closely in the naked frame photos, you can see there is a lot of thicker stuf over the triangles.

The vertical posts are topped with Ts so I can extend the ridgeline if I want to turn the tarp(s) to get more end shade, but I usually try to park with the front of the trailer (gravel shield is insulated) facing south, so the rear is in self-shade leaving only the sides and roof really needing shade (if there are trees properly located, I can merely string a rope between them, toss the tarp over the rope diagonally and stake down the two free corners).

I made it out of PVC, rather than wood or steel because I am trying to keep my total weight down. Bamboo would be a feasible material, but they don't make all those nice fittings for bamboo. Since the PVC isn't all that strong, I decided on the triangles. I intend to redo the ridgeline and triangles using sprinkler PVC instead of the Sched 40 for the weight consideration and I think the triangles will be strong enuf.

The corners can be fixed with poles or they can be tied directly to trees, stakes or rock piles, except maybe above the door, depending on angles.

So far, I haven't figured a way to connect the ridgeline pipes to the triangles without having something there that might damage the tarp. I considered pipethread fittings -- they cost and I don't like the weight, but they might be best for interchangability. Right now, all I did was tie a tension cord from end to end.

Awning (not pictured) comments:

Not having a fixed awning, I attached one side of a green 10x12 tarp to a piece of 3/4 " sprinkler PVC and tied a rope to the pipe ends. I throw the rope over the Egg, using the pipe to put the rope outside the roof hatches, and secure it to one of the wheel holes with a bungee. The other two corners of the tarp are on salvaged tent poles, tied to whatever is handy. I put the awning tarp up after the shade tarp because it's easier.

When I want to take the awning down, I release the pole corners, fold the poles up against the front tarp edge (I have keepers in holes drilled thru the poles to keep them attached to the corner grommets) and roll everything up to the PVC pipe, where I put a bungee around it. I then release the rope, wrap it around the bundle and put the whole thing on the roof rack with the kayak. I put a coupler in the center of the pipe, so it can all be folded to one pole length to fit inside topper if desired.

I can also deploy the awning as a cover between the truck and Egg in the event I want to cook or something on the tailgate in the rain.

Pete, in the cool RatHaus

Actually, I am now parked in the shade of some spruce trees next to the North (or East, I'm not sure) Fork of Mineral Creek, where the breeze down the creek is cool, so the Shade Kit is stowed, but the Awning is out to keep my chair dry.
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Old 08-19-2003, 05:39 PM   #8
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Ah, I can smell the pine trees and feel that cool breeze.
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:27 PM   #9
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Hey Pete,

I love your invention. It not only provides shade, but keeps the sap and leaves off the egg as well. I think I have something that may help. I initially thought that PVC connectors only came in elbows & T's , until I found a source for 3 and 4 way connectors. Go to www.groworganic.com Peaceful Vally Farm Supply. Then click search and enter "snap fittings " and click on 4 way 1/2". I think this is what you need for the tops of your triangle supports.
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Old 08-20-2003, 05:45 PM   #10
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Thanks, I will check them out.

Pete in the RatHaus

I did check them out, and the 4-way snap fitting replaces two T's and the short pipe between them that I used. Great stuf for PVC builders!

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Old 08-20-2003, 05:58 PM   #11
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thanks Lucie Bee

what a great place for plastic connectors!:cheers
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Old 08-22-2003, 02:19 PM   #12
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Bought some of those (thanks a TON for the heads up) and some bigger ones for making dog beds which I have been looking for FOREVER. I just figured they were only made for specific companies. I was excited. I could use some close up shots, Pete, if you could get any. I am slightly confused (ya, dont take much) but am just too dang visual. (I hear women are more visual then men) Also then it would give me a chance to make sure I have all the parts before I begin.
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