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03-26-2016, 03:23 PM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Enhancing small kitchen work surfaces
Many others have posted variations on both these mods, so nothing new here. In the interest however of adding more to the collective database, I'll post these two.
Although we prefer cooking and eating out of the scamp, sometimes when the weather or travel schedule dictate, we're cooking and eating inside. Kitchen work surface in a 13 footer is a challenge. Here are two solutions I've worked on to fill the winter months.
The cutting board cover for the sink that came with our scamp looks wonderful but we find it to be too unstable to use for cutting or safely putting a pot on. I modified a larger standard cutting board by gluing strips cut from an old cutting board on the bottom. It makes a tight fit with the sink and works well for cutting or as a surface for parking a pot.
The second project was a folding shelf off the stove end of the "kitchen" - it extends over the front couch. I cut down a piece of melamine shelf from Home Depot and used these folding shelf brackets Amazon.com: RV Designer H505 Folding Shelf Bracket, (Pack of 2): Automotive
Here a few pics of both.
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03-26-2016, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Had Scamp 13'.
Oklahoma
Posts: 629
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David, the modifications are very nice!
Thanks for the link for the folding-shelf hardware. I've been wondering where I could locate such hardware!
Bill
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03-26-2016, 04:59 PM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Posts: 330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Nolen
David, the modifications are very nice!
Thanks for the link for the folding-shelf hardware. I've been wondering where I could locate such hardware!
Bill
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Bill,
These did work for me but the quality control leaves more than a bit to be desired. They come in pairs and one of mine was close to square, but the second one off by enough degrees from 90 to be a problem. I had to do a bit of buggering with it to get it squared up.
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03-26-2016, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Had Scamp 13'.
Oklahoma
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WDavidG
Bill,
These did work for me but the quality control leaves more than a bit to be desired. They come in pairs and one of mine was close to square, but the second one off by enough degrees from 90 to be a problem. I had to do a bit of buggering with it to get it squared up.
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Thanks David for the additional information on the quality of the hardware!
Since I'm not in a hurry...I'll look around a bit more.
Thanks again,
Bill
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03-26-2016, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Outback (by Trillium) 2004
Posts: 1,588
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Bill.....these brackets are also available online thru Lee Valley Tools. They sell an amazing assortment of hardware. And they stand behind their quality.
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03-26-2016, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Wendy Lee
Trailer: Scamp 13' Standard
New York
Posts: 1,071
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Thank you for sharing these mods Dave. Very nicely done! I just searched my phone but don't have a pic of mine. I used left over cedar plywood from my closet shelves and made a little top for the silverware drawer when it's slid out. I can set things there or use little cutting boards if I need to work.
For Scamps cutting board over the sink, I put little bumpers on the underside to stabilize it. My stovetop cover is a baking sheet. Cheap and cheerful!
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03-26-2016, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Had Scamp 13'.
Oklahoma
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theresa p
Bill.....these brackets are also available online thru Lee Valley Tools. They sell an amazing assortment of hardware. And they stand behind their quality.
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Thanks Theresa, I'll check their site out.
Bill
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03-26-2016, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gilda
Trailer: 2011 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 1,445
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I'm totally new to making a simple modification which requires drilling. How do you attach the bracket to the fiberglass for the side folding counter? Do you remove the drawer in order to access the screw and put a lock nut on the end? How do you drill the fiberglass accurately and without cracking it?
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03-27-2016, 01:40 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilda
I'm totally new to making a simple modification which requires drilling. How do you attach the bracket to the fiberglass for the side folding counter? Do you remove the drawer in order to access the screw and put a lock nut on the end? How do you drill the fiberglass accurately and without cracking it?
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Drilling through FG won't crack it. You may want to use masking tape to mark the center of the hole as that will help to keep the drill bit from "traveling". You may well have to remove something to get at the back side for any washers and nuts. Sometimes I have to have someone else give me a hand for those long reaches.......I don't bend the way I used to, dang <_<.
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03-27-2016, 07:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Posts: 330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilda
I'm totally new to making a simple modification which requires drilling. How do you attach the bracket to the fiberglass for the side folding counter? Do you remove the drawer in order to access the screw and put a lock nut on the end? How do you drill the fiberglass accurately and without cracking it?
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Gilda, I drilled the fiberglass for the screws (you could use small bolts if you prefer), starting with a small pilot hole and worked up the the final diameter for the screws. I removed the silverware drawer to gain access to the inside of the fiberglass panel where I placed a short piece of 1x2 pine to take the screws (use a smaller diameter bit to drill your holes in the wood if you are using screws) to and provide a larger bearing surface. On my scamp five of the six screws for the two brackets worked this way. The bottom screw on the back bracket however comes through the fiberglass in the exterior refrigerator vent compartment (I needed a second pair of hands for this one). Take your time. It's not too difficult.
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03-27-2016, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Had Scamp 13'.
Oklahoma
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilda
I'm totally new to making a simple modification which requires drilling. How do you attach the bracket to the fiberglass for the side folding counter? Do you remove the drawer in order to access the screw and put a lock nut on the end? How do you drill the fiberglass accurately and without cracking it?
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Gilda, it appears that David had a drawer under the stove, so I'd think he did remove the drawer to reach the back side of the screws to attach lock nuts.
It would also be possible to use sheet-metal screws to hold the brackets to the fiberglass. Not the best way to attach items to fiberglass, but IMHO better than removing the stove to reach the back side of screws or bolts!
Sometimes when drilling holes in fiberglass, it helps if you start the hole with a smaller drill bit, then go to a larger drill bit. Dave's suggestion about using masking tape is very good. It's also much easier to mark the needed hole location on tape instead of smooth fiberglass.
Bill
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03-27-2016, 08:06 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Posts: 353
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Great Idea Wendy
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Originally Posted by CampyTime
Thank you for sharing these mods Dave. Very nicely done! I just searched my phone but don't have a pic of mine. I used left over cedar plywood from my closet shelves and made a little top for the silverware drawer when it's slid out. I can set things there or use little cutting boards if I need to work.
For Scamps cutting board over the sink, I put little bumpers on the underside to stabilize it. My stovetop cover is a baking sheet. Cheap and cheerful!
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WENDY...
Where did you get the bumpers for the cutting board? Did you drill all of the way through?
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03-27-2016, 09:28 AM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Nolen
Gilda, it appears that David had a drawer under the stove, so I'd think he did remove the drawer to reach the back side of the screws to attach lock nuts.
Bill
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correct - no need to remove the stove if you have the drawer.
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03-28-2016, 09:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gilda
Trailer: 2011 Scamp 13'
California
Posts: 1,445
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Thanks for the tips, everyone! :-)
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03-30-2016, 05:37 PM
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Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: Escape
Colorado
Posts: 51
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Hey, David! I like your idea for the folding shelf so I've ordered the hardware for it. Just wondering what the measurements are for the shelf itself! Hopefully my hubby'll be able to install one in our Scamp. Nice install!
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03-30-2016, 09:40 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Gilda
Trailer: 2011 Scamp 13'
California
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Does anyone have a photo of the front sofa/bunk that you can post? I want to see where the flange is that holds the upright that holds up the upper bunk. I have an idea to make a shelf using it. All my photos show the cushion covering up this flange and my trailer is parked 1 hour from my home. Thank you.
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Gilda (Jill-da)
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03-31-2016, 07:57 AM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Posts: 330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ljswanson53
Hey, David! I like your idea for the folding shelf so I've ordered the hardware for it. Just wondering what the measurements are for the shelf itself! Hopefully my hubby'll be able to install one in our Scamp. Nice install!
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Linda,
Dimensions are 19" (hinge side) x 14" x 3/4". Let me know if he has any more questions when he gets started on it.
Terrific Einstein quote by the way.
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03-31-2016, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: 2014 13' Scamp -standard w/ front bunk
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Posts: 330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilda
Does anyone have a photo of the front sofa/bunk that you can post? I want to see where the flange is that holds the upright that holds up the upper bunk. I have an idea to make a shelf using it. All my photos show the cushion covering up this flange and my trailer is parked 1 hour from my home. Thank you.
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Gilda,
Do these give you what you need?
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03-31-2016, 09:56 AM
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Member
Name: Linda
Trailer: Escape
Colorado
Posts: 51
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Thanks, David!
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04-01-2016, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Marilyn
Trailer: 13 ft 2005 Scamp Deluxe; 2002 Subaru V6 Outback
Oregon
Posts: 295
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I wish to instal a drop-down extension on my 2005 13ft Scamp at the end of the sink which is tight against the settee, attached with the folding shelf brackets....BUT the thermostat is there, preventing the extension from lying flat in the dropped-down position. The drop-down extension would have to be raised to put down the back cushion.
Suggestions, please?
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