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Old 07-16-2011, 06:57 AM   #15
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Hi, Barrie

What year is your Trillium?
And can you post some pics of the underside that show the frame?
I'd really like to do something similar to my trailer, but I'm not sure if mine's different from yours, and how that might affect the outcome.

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Hi Francesca,
My Trillium is a '72.
I hope you can see enough detail of how the frame curves over the axle area. I illuminated the area with an LED light.
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:51 AM   #16
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Hi Francesca,
My Trillium is a '72.
I hope you can see enough detail of how the frame curves over the axle area. I illuminated the area with an LED light.

I've never seen one with a torsion axle with leaf springs also...Wonder if this is orginal since the body doesn't fit right.. Looking at the picture there seems to be a big crack between the body and frame and none of the ones I own does that they all fit perfect on the frame with "NO" gaps.......But none I own are that old Mine are (2) 1976, (2) 1978 and (1) 1979.....
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:07 AM   #17
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I've never seen one with a torsion axle with leaf springs also...Wonder if this is orginal since the body doesn't fit right.. Looking at the picture there seems to be a big crack between the body and frame and none of the ones I own does that they all fit perfect on the frame with "NO" gaps.......But none I own are that old Mine are (2) 1976, (2) 1978 and (1) 1979.....
Hi Randy,
No, the axle is from another travel trailer and not a torsion axle combination. What looks like a body crack in the photo is actually debris. I just returned from a camping trip.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #18
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Thanks, Barrie!
The picture is most helpful...it looks a lot beefier than mine- it'd sure be interesting to know if that's how the first Trilliums came from the factory.
It's really a completely different suspension system, isn't it?
Good ol' leaf springs...do you suppose that's why the trailer rides O.K. despite the extra weight so far behind the axle?

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Old 07-16-2011, 01:13 PM   #19
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Thanks, Barrie!
The picture is most helpful...it looks a lot beefier than mine- it'd sure be interesting to know if that's how the first Trilliums came from the factory.
It's really a completely different suspension system, isn't it?
Good ol' leaf springs...do you suppose that's why the trailer rides O.K. despite the extra weight so far behind the axle?

Francesca
Hi Francesca,
The leaf springs are really beefy for the size of my Trillium. I asked the former owner, who had the axle/springs installed, what trailer it came from but he couldn't recall. When I bought the trailer it had car tires installed so I bought new trailer tires. That made a huge difference in the trailer's stability too.
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:58 PM   #20
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Hi Francesca,
The leaf springs are really beefy for the size of my Trillium. I asked the former owner, who had the axle/springs installed, what trailer it came from but he couldn't recall. When I bought the trailer it had car tires installed so I bought new trailer tires. That made a huge difference in the trailer's stability too.
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Thanks, Barrie
Boy do I know what you mean about tires...my Trillium came with brand new passenger car radials on it, and the first time I got over 45mph it swayed furiously.
Thanks be for manual brake activation!
I turned right around and went to my RV guy, prepared to buy "sway control". Honest guy that he is, he correctly diagnosed the "wrong tires" problem, and I replaced them with bias-ply ST's that day.
What a difference it made
That, combined with learning to anticipate and avoid sway-causing situations (mainly higher speed and poorly balanced trailer load) has given me many miles of safe travel!
And without any other devices...
I'm interested in your axle because I've noticed that if I carry a bike on the outside hooks on the rack in the picture below, the trailer tries to sway regardless of proper tongue weight ratio. My husband thinks it's because the bike is too far behind the axle, but I've long wondered if the torsion axle might be inferior to leaf springs in the distribution department.

Your success makes me wonder even more!

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Old 07-16-2011, 03:50 PM   #21
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I'm interested in your axle because I've noticed that if I carry a bike on the outside hooks on the rack in the picture below, the trailer tries to sway regardless of proper tongue weight ratio. My husband thinks it's because the bike is too far behind the axle, but I've long wondered if the torsion axle might be inferior to leaf springs in the distribution department.

Your success makes me wonder even more!

Francesca
Hi again Francesca,
My scooter is mounted at least as far back as your bike and certainly it's heavier. I have no experience with the torsion axle so I can't say if that's the problem. I have a trunk mounted bike rack I use when I take my mountain bike and it works great.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:35 PM   #22
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Hi Randy,
No, the axle is from another travel trailer and not a torsion axle combination. What looks like a body crack in the photo is actually debris. I just returned from a camping trip.
Barrie

The crack I was refurring to was the one between the body and frame right in front of the leaf spring shackle connection.......
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The crack I was refurring to was the one between the body and frame right in front of the leaf spring shackle connection.......
Hi Randy,
Sorry, I thought you were referring to something broken (cracked) but you are just referring to the space between the body and the frame. I can't imagine the frame has been replaced. Since this is an earlier version than yours perhaps the fabrication was changed with later productions. Are the frame rails on yours single pieces with 'S' curves over the axle or separate sections of square tubing welded over the axle as another member mentioned?
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Hi Randy,
Sorry, I thought you were referring to something broken (cracked) but you are just referring to the space between the body and the frame. I can't imagine the frame has been replaced. Since this is an earlier version than yours perhaps the fabrication was changed with later productions. Are the frame rails on yours single pieces with 'S' curves over the axle or separate sections of square tubing welded over the axle as another member mentioned?
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Mine has the seprate sections of square tubing........All of them do.... I've never seen one that looked like yours I guess that was the way the early ones were done...really nothing wrong with it I just thought it looked odd at first because I hadn't seen one that way before....
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:42 PM   #25
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Mine has the seprate sections of square tubing........All of them do.... I've never seen one that looked like yours I guess that was the way the early ones were done...really nothing wrong with it I just thought it looked odd at first because I hadn't seen one that way before....
Hmmm. Interesting. I'm happy I have single piece frame rails. I'm sure my set up is stronger than a two piece welded unit and better suited for the frame extension I have. The gap you noticed between the body and frame near the 'hump' hasn't caused a problem and don't expect it will.
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Hi Randy,
I can't imagine the frame has been replaced. Since this is an earlier version than yours perhaps the fabrication was changed with later productions.....
Barrie
If you are curious about the frame, you might call Tom Young at the new Trillium company in California. He was the manager at the Trillium plant back in the '70s. He may be able to shed some light on this very interesting set-up
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:48 PM   #27
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Wonder what the frame on others the same year as yours look like..If anyone has a 1300 the same year as yours can ring in and shed some light on the subject that would be great....Let's hear it guys I know someone out there has one the same year....
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This is a very interesting conversation!
Hey, Randy and Barrie-
How about each of you posting side-view pictures of your 1300's?
Barrie's looks taller from what I can see in the rack-picture, but it'd be nice to see the trailer sideview-straight-on, especially with another 1300 to compare it to...
Even if Randy's IS newer!

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