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Old 03-06-2013, 03:28 PM   #15
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amps * volts = watts, not amp hours. 2 amps continuous would be 48 amp hours per day.
You are correct. I must have been asleep.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:47 PM   #16
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But, only if it runs non-stop, which it doesn't. In reality, it's probably more like a 50% duty cycle, when it's in use and it probably would be shut down completely during some part of the day.

Also, with enough solar, the panels would be powering the appliances during daylight hours.

In spite of all this, it would be worth exploring some of the newer catalytic vented furnaces. As Conrad mentioned, there are some that use no electric.
I decided to get the Dickenson vented heater. It fits my Marine theme as well.

These Suburban heaters are very impressive and simple to use. They are much smaller and lighter than the monster I tore out of my camper last year. I like that their is only one cut out on the side too. A new furnace also inspires confidence. I find the old ones rather scary.

My brother has boon docked full time in a 26' camper with one pair of six volt solar panels in series and a non vented catalytic heater. That was all he used and he raved about it and stressed the value of its not needing power. Of course these nom vented types put a lot of water into the air which can cause other problems.

I've read the many complaints people had about power draw on furnaces and the noise. Personally, I don't mind the sound of a furnace kicking on and off.

I do value something quiet in that I can hear what is going on around me. When I anchor boats overnight, I tie off halyards and religiously track and cure anything noisy, so I can hear other boats drifting too close. No matter where i go, someone anchors next to me. it is the herd instinct. Likewise when camping, and I boon dock mostly,I want it quiet to be more aware of my surroundings.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:38 PM   #17
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I read the Dickenson manual but could not find any mention of operation at high altitude something you might want to check if you camp up high. Some heaters dont like the higher altitudes. The Attwood II works at higher altitudes.
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Dickinson makes good products. Over the years with different boats i had a propane heater... loved the flames through the window...and 2 different diesel model's. I really need a diesel truck and put a diesel model in my ParkLiner one day.

Now I'm starting to look for a solar panel to roof mount that would compensate for the fan on the existing heater. Good to keep the batteries topped off.


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Mike,
I don't have a photbucket, but I'll post a few more pics that might shed some light.

Also, as Jim noted, most EggCampers came as "electric only" with the cooking done on an electric hot plate or griddle. With the exception of boiling water on a small Trangia alcohol stove, making coffee in the coffee maker, and reheating something in the microwave, we do all the cooking outside.

Here are a few more photos and some comments.
Photo 1 is the before, showing an earlier mod to add two drawers.

Photo 2 shows everything removed, but with the original cutouts.

Photo 3 shows the 1/4" birch plywood being glued to the front of the cabinet. I use 3M 5200 for permanent work and 3M 4200 Fast Cure for items that may be removed sometime in the future. The 5200 cure time takes longer.

Photo 4 shows the opening for the furnace. You can see the top of the supporting table. It straddles the original furnace and propane sensor (below).

Photo 5 shows the enlarged cutouts before applying the plywood.

Photo 6 shows the vent. This was the most critical cut (read nerve racking), making sure that the outside cutout lined up with the flue for the furnace. Measure 3 or 4 times before cutting.

I also glued (3M 5200) wood strips on the inner surface of the cabinet, which provided stiffness and, in several places, material for screws to bite into.

The framing for the drawer, left side is glued to the left (inside) of the cabinet and, for the right side to the underside of the counter top.

Moving the electrical outlet to above the cabinet required a 1/2" wooden spacer to allow for the depth of the electrical box inside the post.

Hope this helps.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:07 AM   #20
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Furnace placement and additional comments

Thanks for the pictures Ron. I just ASSumed that Casitas or others were propane. I had two pop-ups and a stick back in the 70s and they all had full propane, heaters, etc. So that was an enlightenment for me. The one that I have now had a Suburban Furnace,Dometic fridge,Mansfield marine toilet and a 2 burner stove in it. They were all rusted out badly and I would not trust their integrity or safety. That's the only egg insides I had ever seen save for the Casita web site of present day. I have pictured my interior galley to be just like yours with stove,sink,fridge and heater on the drivers side and on the side that had the fridge and microwave I want to put all drawers and a shelf on the very top. Someone suggested putting the AC in the closet instead of the window and I finally saw a picture on one that was for sale and thats a good idea I think. I like the openness of the area without the cabinet on the passenger side BUT I think that the curved cabinet assists in the structural integrity of the egg by tying both sides together???? I would like a cabinet over the galley but unlike the original which just hung down on 4 rivets, I want to incorporate two small support stanchions to brace the upper cabinet. I think you have something like that which you mounted an AC receptacle on.
This is going to cost a little more than I had anticipated being on a fixed retirement income but I would rather go slower and do it right once. I can always camp in stages after I get the outsides done and then work as I can on the insides. Just grab a Weber and jug of water and cook outside for now
Thanks to all you guys for your replies. Everyone has been super helpful and I love the pictures as they really do tell a story.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #21
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The furnace and cooktop installation in our EggCamper is complete. Two things happen Monday. We're having sheet vinyl installed on the floor after I flooded the carpet and I am going to get both propane and carbon monoxide detectors. The cost for having this done was about half what I would have had to pay the factory. The installation looks pretty much like the installation in Ron F's Egg. I'm lucky to have the local RV place handy ( our town is a very small town...about 1500 people) and the guys are very skilled and professional. The furnace they installed is an Atwood.
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We love pictures here, Bob!!
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Thanks for the pictures Ron. I just ASSumed that Casitas or others were propane.
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All eggs are propane except Little Snoozy's and EGG brand Campers. Casita's, Scamps, and all the rest have propane.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:50 PM   #24
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With any luck I'll get some pictures out tomorrow. Installation wasn't quite as cheap as I thought. While checking out the bill last night I discovered that they had not added in the labor and they didn't realize it. They're pretty happy with me since I pointed this out. If I hadn't noticed, they'd have been out 12 hours labor charges.
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