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Old 01-30-2013, 07:40 PM   #29
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That Stratos stuff looks and sounds a lot like Scamp's "rat fur".

Hull Liner seems more like a generic name than a specific brand or material.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:43 PM   #30
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You post counter junkies are pathetic. Hey - that got me up to 68!!!

Anyway, I'm smack dab in the middle of lining my Scamp 13 with ensolite type foam, and will then cover it with marine grade off-white vinyl. I'm moving slow, but should have some pics soon.
Love to see how that turns out!!! Pics, before, after and during please!

Ensolite sounds really great, but I think it's very expensive compared to reflectix for a given level of insulation. Even thin ensolite is expensive as I recall.
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...And what about Escape? Are rats even allowed in Canada???
I think they are the great, great, great, great, grandkids of the Siberian Rats that came over the land bridge to Alaska back in the day.

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Love to see how that turns out!!! Pics, before, after and during please!

Ensolite sounds really great, but I think it's very expensive compared to reflectix for a given level of insulation. Even thin ensolite is expensive as I recall.
If the ensolite referred to is the same as used in my Trillium and insulative value is your main concern: I can tell you that inch for inch you'll get better insulation from Reflectix covered with just about anything you choose.

The only reason I haven't changed mine out is because I haven't figured out anything as washable and attractive as the (original) ensolite.

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The ensolite I have handled was quite thin and expensive. They do make much thicker varieties, but it's pretty dense and heavy, those properties are not ideal for heat insulation. And the thick stuff must cost more. Ensolite is supposedly fantastic sound insulation. So a layer on the hull under other insulation like reflectix may dampen the noise of your environment.
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...Ensolite is supposedly fantastic sound insulation. So a layer on the hull under other insulation like reflectix may dampen the noise of your environment.
The reflectix+fabric is good at sound insulation as you hint/ponder above. We usually camp within ~100 feet of a raging river when gold panning. During the day the sound is comfortably deafening during the evening inside the van it is so quiet we usually open the roof vent and crack all opening windows just to get some white noise to sleep by.
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My understanding is that Ensolite is not such a good insulator. Also, it is heavy. I went to look at a Trillium that had the Ensolite sagging quite badly from the roof. Now it may be that as I lifted back up to the fibreglass some of the weight I felt was resistance to flexing.
I found some good pricing on Neoprene and thought that if you rolled on a vinyl coating, it would be a lot like Ensolite. I never gave it a try though.
If rat fur is made from rats, then the elephant people aren't going to be happy about elephant skin.
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The reflectix+fabric is good at sound insulation as you hint/ponder above. We usually camp within ~100 feet of a raging river when gold panning. During the day the sound is comfortably deafening during the evening inside the van it is so quiet we usually open the roof vent and crack all opening windows just to get some white noise to sleep by.
Two layers of reflextix and a layer of rat fur are not bad a sound deadening. Pretty impressive actually considering the total weight and thickness. But since I'm currently in a semi-urban environment near a major freeway hub, I do hear more traffic than I'd like. Single pane windows are not helping that issue. That's another topic all together, been meaning to ask if anyone had replaced standard Hehr windows with double pane.
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Dylan, on single pane windows and sound...as you know my reference to sound insulation is inside our van conversion with stock automotive windows on front cab, two in curb side slider (closest to the river) and the two in rear doors. We put up a double layer of reflectix in each window at night for night shades and to help with insulation (sound/temp).

On Hehr windows. Elsewhere i mentioned we have them (double pane) throughout our 38ft 5'ver. Herr will make replacements for your existing Hehr single pane windows (expensive!) but we really appreciate ours in all seasons.
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Thom, You are right Parkliner does use Hulliner as their wall/ceiling covering. I love what you did in your van, and would like to do the same in a Dodge Sprinter Van some day. By the way thanks to Francesca for that wholesaler link, you never know when you might want some of this stuff.
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I think the benefit to ensolite is in ease of manufacture. You get insulation from condensation and a wall covering in one application. As far as reflectix, Scamp claims R-15. There was a rather heated debate on that a while back. At the time I knew nothing about reflectix. I bought some this fall to make window coverings for those below zero days we get. According to the manufacturer, covering both sides doesn't seem get you much in terms of R value.

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..And what about Escape? Are rats even allowed in Canada???

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Escape doesn't use rat fur.

Rats in Canada? Alberta is the only Canadian Province that prohibits rats (4-legged ones, there are many 2-legged ones walking around).
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Thom, You are right Parkliner does use Hulliner as their wall/ceiling covering. I love what you did in your van, and would like to do the same in a Dodge Sprinter Van some day. . .
Thanks for the kind words on the van Tim.

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Escape doesn't use rat fur.

Rats in Canada? Alberta is the only Canadian Province that prohibits rats (4-legged ones, there are many 2-legged ones walking around).
I didn't know that (either fact! )

What does Escape put on the walls of the trailers?

Per Reflectix r-value:
I installed this in my outside-access compartments to insulate them from the interior. Instructions say that best r-value is achieved with an air gap of at least 1/8 in. Not easy to achieve on interior walls, I'd guess.

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