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Old 06-13-2008, 01:24 AM   #29
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Darrel--- luckily, the floor is ok... (one of the few things....) NOT!!!!!!!! I was inside yesterday and Roger (of Bonnie & Roger in WA--- AKA "Mr Perfection"-- his LIL Bigfoot is beautiful) pointed out to me that the floor was sagging when I was walking around... "it's only 8 bolts" he said "and the body comes off" And then he promptly left.... Weeellll- actually it's 16, but who's counting? So, Carrie came to the shop and we buzzed the bolts out, and then tilted the floor up and threw the blackened plywood out the back door. (and yes Darrel, it did need replacing) The reason the floor sags is a lack of crossmembers. So, now it has 4 more crossmembers. And the frame gets trussed on the bottom tomorrow to take the flex out of it.

So the saga continues.... Then the body goes back on, new floor made, then out the front door and the sanding and body prep starts. Filling holes, grinding out cracks, flaws, etc. Then the Interlux goes on. And of course, new cabinets.... More to follow. Larry
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:53 AM   #30
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Larry - I've just jumped into my FIRST adventure with a Compact Jr. (Our first trailer of any sort!) I'm having some issues with finding "plumbing" (for lack of a better term) to hook up the water tank. I'm not a big plumber, though I have replaced two sinks in our home (woo hoo). I could use some pointers. Would you mind showing us your tank set up (fixtures, hoses, adapters, etc.)?

The main issue seems to be the oddball sizes of everything. The filler neck of the tank is smooth and 1 1/2" (O.D.), while the fitting on the trailer wall is a pressure fit 1 1/8". Seems to me I need to reduce the line somehow along the way.

How do you tie the tank down to the floor? I have been considering a strap like that shown on your latest project (front to back), but not sure whether to install eye screws/bolts through floor or not. That seems the OBVIOUS solution to me, but obvious doesn't always prove best.

And finally, I'd like to use one of these for the gray water drain, but it appears to be for a 1 1/2" outlet. Mine measures a clear 1 3/4". What do you use out there?

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Larry - I've just jumped into my FIRST adventure with a Compact Jr. (Our first trailer of any sort!) I'm having some issues with finding "plumbing" (for lack of a better term) to hook up the water tank.

The filler neck of the tank is smooth and 1 1/2" (O.D.), while the fitting on the trailer wall is a pressure fit 1 1/8".
How do you tie the tank down to the floor?

gray water drain, but it appears to be for a 1 1/2" outlet. Mine measures a clear 1 3/4". What do you use out there?

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JEN----Hmmmm I am going to have to take a drive to my shop (couple of miles) and measure everything... I just took everything apart and it is scattered aaallll over. The tank was held down with a strap- screwed into the sidewall (seat brace) and the floor with a couple of pieces of wood fore and aft screwed to the floor, to keep it from sliding. Sort of primitive, but the Compact had already had one "hurry-up" rebuild about 10 or so years ago. I'll post the measurements later for the pipes. Larry

It is now later---- Let's see if I can answer your questions in order....
#1 yup-filler neck of tank is smooth and about 1 1/2" and inlet filler (which I am going to replace) is about1 1/8 -see added tape? - here is what I have:

#2- I think I already answered

#3 Yes- the fitting you are looking at is for 1 1/2" pipe--- That is I.D.-- outer measurement will be approx 1 3/4". Attached is photo of what I have.

Make sense? Hope this has helped. LARRY
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:43 PM   #32
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Weeelllll---- After a little procrastination (was gonna join the Society of Procrastinators once, but never have gotten around to it ), and a little sidetrack or two (refurbing and putting a new floor in a 30 foot office trailer), I am back on it...... Slipped the body on the frame this morning (six new crossmembers to ensure no sagging, and treated w/POR 15, trussed, etc). Oh, did I mention that I installed a new straight axle that I built to raise the trailer 4 inches? Then, cut the plywood for a new floor, treated it w/asphalt sealer. After that, I ran out of things to do, so I started to rip the plywood out of the pop-up so I can re arch it. Felt like an early Native American building a canoe, except I was using water instead of fire to get the wood out. That's all for today--- more to follow. Larry (and yes, Steve, I did scarf that ugly bumper off...)
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:09 AM   #33
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Weeelllll---- After a little procrastination (was gonna join the Society of Procrastinators once, but never have gotten around to it ), and a little sidetrack or two (refurbing and putting a new floor in a 30 foot office trailer), I am back on it...... Slipped the body on the frame this morning (six new crossmembers to ensure no sagging, and treated w/POR 15, trussed, etc). Oh, did I mention that I installed a new straight axle that I built to raise the trailer 4 inches? Then, cut the plywood for a new floor, treated it w/asphalt sealer. After that, I ran out of things to do, so I started to rip the plywood out of the pop-up so I can re arch it. Felt like an early Native American building a canoe, except I was using water instead of fire to get the wood out. That's all for today--- more to follow. Larry (and yes, Steve, I did scarf that ugly bumper off...)

Man, it looks hot in Ephrata.
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Not bad----- high 80', low 90's...... I spent a year in a much hotter place, so this is bearable. And, it is not as oppressive as on your side of the Mountain. Larry (sent ya a PM)
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One thing occurs to me. Sis had her Compact weighed at the Oregon Gathering, and she's seriously light on the tongue (60/1600). I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation and figured that she could get 10% on the tongue by moving the axle six or seven inches aft. It's impractical for her trailer, but since you're doing a frame-off and seem to know what you're doing with metal fabrication and fiberglass, you might think about doing something of the sort...

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One thing occurs to me. Sis had her Compact weighed at the Oregon Gathering, and she's seriously light on the tongue (60/1600). I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation and figured that she could get 10% on the tongue by moving the axle six or seven inches aft. It's impractical for her trailer, but since you're doing a frame-off and seem to know what you're doing with metal fabrication and fiberglass, you might think about doing something of the sort...
Steve--- I thought about that the first time you mentioned it----- In my mind almost impossible. It would involve major structure changes (and a lot of time) Moving wheel wells, which would put them right under the stove and in the closet under the ice box/fridge, rebuilding cabinents, etc. Quicker solution would be to put battery, spare, propane, etc on reinforced tongue.
Then, do what we did on race cars to add weight where we wanted it. Gather up all the wheel weights in the world, melt them into a vlave cover (off an engine), make a big lead ingot, drill a couple hole in it and bolt somewhere it can't be seen. I betcha if you didn't tell Cory, it would take her a while to discover them......... (of course, I've let the cat out of the bag now) at 1600# her trailer is still not very heavy, and that might be the solution.. Larry
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For some reason that 1600 lb seems a bit high.

I had a Compact Jr. in the '70s and it weighed 850 lb dry and around 1150 loaded.

It was pretty bare-bones, though, with only a 2 burner cook top, a small ice box and a porta-potty as the appliance load.

I never had any problems with sway towing with an old Peugeot 404. Was pretty underpowered, though.

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For some reason that 1600 lb seems a bit high.

I had a Compact Jr. in the '70s and it weighed 850 lb dry and around 1150 loaded.

It was pretty bare-bones, though, with only a 2 burner cook top, a small ice box and a porta-potty as the appliance load.

I never had any problems with sway towing with an old Peugeot 404. Was pretty underpowered, though.
Dunno---- when I brought the project home, I ran it across a WSP scale, 1350# on the axle, and about 35# tongue weight. It had a fridge, normal galley, empty water tank, battery and a couple spares inside. It'll prob weigh more when I'm done. Larry
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Make sense? Hope this has helped. LARRY
Sounds like your project is coming along great. We took off for our trip Monday (7/28), so I didn't catch this latest update 'til we regained internet tonight upon arrival in Washington (hot shower, too...woo hoo!).

Ended up cutting off the original tank filler neck, using a hole saw to cut the hole for a really cool compression fitting with a standard neck, connecting standard flexible RV water hose, discovering the old filler inlet wasn't modern standard either so replacing that, then moving the filler inlet up about 4" so there's a fall to the tank. Works great.

Now I'll a fiberglass refresher course so I can fill the old hole. For now, there's a cleanout cover (black to match the black paint) to fill the hole.

Lots of stuff to do with this pup, but it works for now! We've been happy to have it on the road this first of 9 weeks on the road!

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Weellll It's sitting on the frame again--sorta bolted on--- took it home to TSP the inside walls so I could paint the inside Friday... Just got back from putting down the vinyl floor covering. Doesn't look too bad. sure glad my friend Mike knows what he is doing..... Larry
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Wow...that looks really nice. I like how you built the wood floor all the way out to the sidewalls (I don't really care for that odd drop to the fiberglass floor on mine, and the idea of the thinner floor area). The linoleum/vinyl to the edges'll be nice, too!
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And the SAGA continues....... Rebuilt the galley cabinent yesterday (didn't remove it- just rebuilt, reinforced, and replaced dry-rotted supports), new bed/couch wood, and new closet/cupboard frame. (will skin it Monday). Carrie is happy as she will gain a cutting board and one more cupboard for pots and pans... Pressure is mounting to be finished, as it is already scheduled to be "rented out" for my good friend's Elk trip....... (I'll use the Scamp for mine) Also, Carrie & my goal is to take it to the Grayland campout in the end of SEP. Larry
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