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Old 09-14-2008, 11:31 PM   #71
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Larry, or anyone who can answer this question.

What kind of paint can be used to paint the inside walls? The previous owners may have used a house paint in the inside. I would like a paint that has a good surface impervious to fingerprints, and can be wiped down to clean.
I think I screwed up on that one, I used a flat interior house paint (what can I say, it was free ). It shows smudge marks easily...... We'll see how it makes it thru the hunting season. May have to mask everything off in the Spring and use something like Kevin recommended. Larry
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:32 AM   #72
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Thanks for the paint reference. I hope it sticks to fiberglass. :-)

Larry,
It is all you fault! Your pictures have given me the courage to explore mutilizing a perfectly good trailer to start with. Ok, well not really perfect, but does show some age around the corners. Today I dismantled the bed and closet areas. The refrigerator seems to work ok, both electric, and propane. Tested the electric, and today testing the propane.

The closet section came out in one entire section once I got the anchor screws out. Next the galley! I aim to replace the floor. It is still reasonably solid, but I like how you did your floor. With a fresh plywood floor it should eliminate any odor from former inhabitants (mice). I will be able to seal the plywood edges with epoxy to prevent any future delamination from possible moisture. I plan to CPES (Rot Doctor Product) the road side.

Larry,
I hope you don't mind me sharing your thread. To post any of my pictures would look just like your pictures, down to the linoleum! I have the same pattern in mine.

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Old 09-15-2008, 12:38 AM   #73
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I have two questions (for now).

1. After removing my cabinets, I have the same paint pattern. Is the offwhite pinkish paint color the primer? I assume the original interior color was white.

2. Did you piece the floor in from the inside, or did you build the entire floor first?

I am guessing you lowered the entire floor in from the roof. The back door seems to small. I barely got the cabinet through.

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1. Is the offwhite [b]pinkish paint color the primer? I assume the original interior color was white.

2. Did you piece the floor in from the inside, or did you build the entire floor first?
1. Compact Jr.'s came from the factory in 4 Pastel Colors:
  1. Robbin's Egg Blue
  2. Pastel Pink
  3. Canary Yellow
  4. Pastel Green

I don't remember if white ever was a factory color. Most were repainted at one time or another.

2. When I replaced the floor in my Compact Jr., I pieced it in through the door.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:45 AM   #75
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I have two questions (for now).

1. After removing my cabinets, I have the same paint pattern. Is the offwhite pinkish paint color the primer? I assume the original interior color was white.

2. Did you piece the floor in from the inside, or did you build the entire floor first?

I am guessing you lowered the entire floor in from the roof. The back door seems to small. I barely got the cabinet through.
Hmmmm Let's see if I can give a coherent answer or two....
!. That pukey pink, I think that is/was the original interior color, maybe some others can answer that question. That seems to be sorta slopped/painted on before the cabinents were installed. The interior of mine was painted sorta white once, but that was by a previous owner. (that could be surmised by the paint drips and smears on the seats and cabinents) I also found a newspaper from the Olympia, WA, area from the 70's that was stuck down with the whitish paint....

2. Believe it or not, the original floor came out thru the door, I removed it before sliding the body off. I propped it up a little from underneath, then reached in thru the removed window and stood it up. Slid it out. Remember the plywood floor is only 4 ft wide and the door is taller than that. (it is 10 ft long tho) Since only 4 x 8 sheets are available around here, that's what we used. Cross memembers were added at the seam area. Then, pieces were cut to fill in. The areas that were too odd to make pieces for just got a treatment of leftover Bondo I had. When I ran out of Bondo, RockHard wood putty was trowled in..... The plywood was screwed to the crossmembers wherever we found (or thought) it wasn't laying down nicely. Another reason I added crossmembers is that I am anal about the floor flexing... (and I like to weld) I posted two pictures of frame--with and with out added crossmembers. Larry (also how the floor was filled to take the floor covering)
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I have no pinkish white showing in the interior of my '73 Compact Jr. I believe that all Jr's had diamond quilted white vinyl on the interior walls when they were built. I have no facts to prove this idea. Areas that have no vinyl on mine (like the interior of the wheel wells) are yellow raw fiberglass. My exterior was originally lime green. I wonder if the pinkish white you are seeing might be the left-over glue? Best of luck on both your great projects.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:35 AM   #77
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The discovery of what I refered to as a pinkish color are behind the cabinets. The visible interior surfaces are white. It appears that previous owners did repaint over what ever was original. I also have the raw yellow fiberglass in areas that are normally hidden by cabinets. The color differences can be seen in some of Larry's pictures.

It is not a big ordeal to know the answer, as I was just trying to learn what was the actual color, and if primer was used historically. Do I need special primer if I paint over the raw surface?

How are the quilted panels attached to the inside? I don't show any evidence of any fastener remnants, or hangers in my Compact Jr.

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Old 09-15-2008, 06:43 PM   #78
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Made a new straight axle today - eliminated the 4" drop to raise it. Larry
How do you like the new height of the straight axle? Do the tires in the wheel well still look proportional at the new height? I am contemplating adding electric brakes.
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How do you like the new height of the straight axle? Do the tires in the wheel well still look proportional at the new height? I am contemplating adding electric brakes.
Here's the difference--- tongue height is about the same between the two rigs... I built the straight axle 'cause if I just put the axle under the springs (commonly referred to as "flipping" the axle), I would still have that 4" dropped axle and not gain any ground clearance on the axle. Larry
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Larry,

I've enjoyed your posts and appreciate the photo with the straight axle. I just rebuilt my 72 Compact Jr. and have been contemplating switching to a straight. The photo helps.

I'm still trying to decide on a related issue, and wonder if you'd share your thoughts.

Like you had mentioned in a previous post, your rebuild, and definitely mine, are going to be slightly heavier than factory. I replaced the original 'structural paneling' used in all the cabinets with 1/2 inch plywood, added a three-way fridge, a 12 volt bank, and generally beefed the whole rig up, from floor to ceiling. Haven't weighed it yet, but 'loaded for bear' I think she's going to top 2000 lbs.

The factory axle and mated hubs and wheels are 2000 pounders. The next size up, on the shelf, is 3500 pounds, and would require different hubs and wheels. If I have to replace all three of my (new) 4 on 4, 13 inch wheels, I'd want to go to a size that matches my tow vehicle.

Does it look like there's room for a 15 inch wheel once the 4 inch drop is eliminated? Do you recall, was your 'hub face to hub face' length 58 inches?

Fairly tough to find a 58 inch 3500 lbs axle. I did find one - but I'm second guessing the 'need' and 'will it work'.
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When we bought our in early 1975 it came with a straight axle.

The interior fiberglass was covered with diamond quilted vinyl, but was very dirty, decrepit and torn off in many places. I removed it and painted the rough surface of the interior fiberglass with several coats of white latex trim paint. I think the trim paint has a bit more color, body and sheen than the regular house paint.

It was serviceable and looked nice, but did sweat in cool weather.

We really enjoyed it as a young couple, took two circuits of the whole country, but when we started our family it was sold to a couple that had just retired.

Our gripes were: 1) the rear door was always terribly dirty with road dirt. It also 'worked' in its frame and didn't seal well. 2) the bed was huge -- we thought that part of the real estate it used could have been better used. 3) the frame, especially at the tongue was very weak and had to be beefed up.

What we liked: 1) we loved the light weight and simplicity 2) the pop top was a great idea. It allowed for excellent ventilation during warm weather, and even when down, we could still walk around almost without bumping our heads.
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I've enjoyed your posts and appreciate the photo with the straight axle. I just rebuilt my 72 Compact Jr. and have been contemplating switching to a straight. The photo helps.

I'm still trying to decide on a related issue, and wonder if you'd share your thoughts.

Does it look like there's room for a 15 inch wheel once the 4 inch drop is eliminated? Do you recall, was your 'hub face to hub face' length 58 inches?
Hmmmm- I still have the dropped axle, measured it tonite, 'cause I could remember how wide the new one is.... The old one is 57" hub to hub (wheel mounting surface)
I'm running 175/80 13 tires (passenger) -they are 23 1/2" tall. I measured how much room is above the tires, about 8", except the weight is off the suspension. So, I'm guessing it will be closer to 6" loaded. Will tell you more next week after we use it. Also will weigh it loaded going down the road. And give you body clearance from the road. Larry
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:58 AM   #83
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I am so jealous - I have decided that I really, really want a Compact, Jr.

First, I need to get a different tow vehicle - I'm sure my 4 cyclinder Vue just won't do.

I love the posts of the fixer ups and modifications.
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Thanks for the measurement last night, and for offering to check it loaded - very valuable information.

Since I just figured out how to adjust my photos, here's what my rig is looking like...more pics after our trip this weekend.
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