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Old 09-23-2008, 03:47 PM   #99
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It emerged!!!!!! Going home to get packed. Many final moments of trials and tribulation getting the bugs worked out---- (little things like a couple propane leaks---- -- nothing serious) Hitting the road tommorrow Meeting Brandy for coffee in the morning-- so us procrastinaters have a deadline. Larry
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:36 PM   #100
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Congratulations. Looks great!
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:43 PM   #101
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Congratulations. Looks great!
I couldn't read 101 posts, but I looked at the pix as you progressed. I'm left with a question.
What is the purpose of the pop-up? Is that where you piggy-back the grand-children? Having never seen one of these I'm left to wonder.

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Old 09-23-2008, 08:02 PM   #102
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Glenn,
The trailer interior height is about 5'4" with the top down. Smaller frontal area for towing and lower height for storage. When raised for camping, the interior height is 6'8".
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:28 PM   #103
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The trailer interior height is about 5'4" with the top down. Smaller frontal area for towing and lower height for storage. When raised for camping, the interior height is 6'8".
But, it looks to be about 3' x 5' ( or maybe less ). That's why I questioned it.

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Old 09-24-2008, 06:50 AM   #104
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Glenn,
Now I understand what you are asking. The raised portion of the roof in a Compact Jr. is 3' X 9' (it's smaller in a Compact II). This is above all the area where you can stand in the interior. All the area under the low part of the roof is seating, storage, or cooking space. Of course, this design only works due to the rear door and central aisle.

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Old 09-29-2008, 06:07 PM   #105
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Larry, I enjoyed your posts on the complete rebuild of the Compact-JR. The pictures are a big help in understanding the construction of the camper.
The plywood floor you replaced shows an open bottom when you removed it.


My big question is; Is this because the lower fiberglass shell was cut away (at some time) or is the original lower shell fiberglass all the way accross?

Any one else want to comment on the Shell construction, jump right in. Thanks --Dan--
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The Compact Jr. (and many other fiberglass trailers) has a floor of plywood and no fiberglass underneath. My 1973 has its original floor with no repairs and is still very solid. Almost all floor failures are due to water leaking from above through windows, doors, vent, sinks, etc. and not from water splashed up by the tires while towing.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:31 PM   #107
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DAN--- the cut-out in the fiberglass was factory done--- dunno why. And, as TOM said the floor rot comes from leaks not spray thrown up. The floor was in good shape where it was exposed to the elements, but dry rotted in the front, prob from the front window leaking. And a little distress was also under the sink area.
Made it's innaugral trip quite well this week-- nothing fell off. Just had a couple leaks (3) to fix in the sink area---city water faucet needed a couple washers, and the redesigned -took the gooseneck out- drain had a leak (din't have duct tape, so electrical tape sufficed). Did reaffirm that some sort of insulation needs to be installed-- do not like condensation on the walls, makes my underwear and socks on the shelves a little clammy...... weighed it on the way home. 1580# on the axle and approx 80# tongue weight for a total of 1660#. I was a little apprehensive about having not enough tongue weight, so I installed a 7 1/2 gal propane tank and the spare is also on the tongue. This was with everything we took this weekend and about 5 gal of water directly under the sink. I don't have the water tank under the seat anymore and no house battery. It's a little heavier than our Scamp, it weighs 1600# loaded the same. Pulls pretty decent, doesn't bobble around too much till one gets up to about 70 MPH. Couple shots of it, and showing the awning I made for it. Awning can be installed with the top up or down, just use different grommets on hooks I installed. Larry
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:10 AM   #108
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snip... Also, my solution to the sagging popup--- fiberglassed in 1/2 inch square tubing contoured to the main roof.
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Almost at the point of using your idea to add supports to the roof. This will be my first attempt at applying epoxy. Can you give a first timer an idea of how many epoxy coats, or layers of fabric you applied to the support system to give it enough rigidity.

After the maiden voyage, do you have any after thoughts, or improvements you wish you had done during the renovation?
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Almost at the point of using your idea to add supports to the roof. This will be my first attempt at applying epoxy. Can you give a first timer an idea of how many epoxy coats, or layers of fabric you applied to the support system to give it enough rigidity.

After the maiden voyage, do you have any after thoughts, or improvements you wish you had done during the renovation?
Cliff-- I used 1/2" square tubing, bent it to conform to the contour of the roof right above the door (was the handiest spot). Used engine cylinder heads (they were handy, too) to provide the wieght to bow the roof down. Then applied a couple layers of mat and resin on the ends to bond them in. After those were set up, filled in the center with two layers also. Was a learning experience on how large a quantity of resin to mix at a time (90 degree weather-quick "flash" time) so as not to waste it. Did screw up and cover one of the holes for the top mech and had to shorten the plate and redrill the roof. Do some measuring and planning. Also, the front rib I added will not let the roof come all the way down, so had to add a spacer between the roof and bracket, will take a picture of that and post it later today. (this also meant that I had to space the hold-down catches accordingly).

After the maiden voyage thoughts? Hmmmm other than coming to the conclusion we like the Scamp better-- this is because floor space is at a minimum in the CJ. Since we leave the bed made up all the time- a double across the front with seating space towards the galley and a small pedestal table up, floor space is a premium... Definately not a foul weather rig (which it was for a couple days). The cupboards, pantry, shelves, cutting board, etc worked out very nicely. Maybe a little short of counter space. We love the propane light- I replaced the Coleman (piece missing-on order) and installed an Humphrey I picked up-- Coleman will go back in when parts arrive, slightly smaller. It provides both heat and enuff light to read by, wish I had a spot in the Scamp to install one.
All in all the CJ came out very well and will used as a "loaner" to my friend who helped build it (and prob my daughter who has thrown out inquiries regarding it) It definately will make a very nice two man hunting camp with two side bunks set up exposing more floor space. Larry
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It definitely will make a very nice two man hunting camp with two side bunks set up exposing more floor space. Larry
On her recent long trip, my sister did this; she slept on one "bunk" and her dog on the other, with the table set between them as a sort of nightstand. She ate sitting on the bunk, using the folding shelf I installed as a miniature table.

She also said that as the trip went on, she did less and less packing-up; eventually the sleeping bag and her other stuff got left out all the time...
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Larry,
Thank you for taking the time to provide your comments, I appreciate your feedback. I now have all the hardware off, and willl start the preparation (sanding, filling etc..) for painting.
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Thank you for taking the time to provide your comments, I appreciate your feedback. I now have all the hardware off, and willl start the preparation (sanding, filling etc..) for painting.
Cliff- here is the oops I made doing the bows.... Several ways to remedy that, one is to put in spacers like I did, other is to notch the top of the fiberglass- plenty there, just have to rearrange the trim seal a little.
Also, I think it was you that asked in regards to trailer height after the straight axle install. Bottom of body: 16" -- space above tires: slightly over 6"-- with trailer level still only puts tongue height at approx 12-13". Wondered why it was tongue high hanging on back of El Camino.... Larry
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