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Old 11-06-2015, 06:07 PM   #71
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Wow Bill, you are off to a good start with you modification with that nice white floor, clean electrical wiring and that nice looking sliding tray for the Porta-Potti. I especially like the way you used the split plastic conduit to enclose all the wiring. I just will have to steal that idea and go back and do mine that way. Also, placing the electrical box in that corner makes it a lot more accessible than having to reach back under the sink.

If I understand your question correctly, the brackets (clips) I used are shown on Page 2, message #17, in second photo. Click on the photo to enlarge it and you can see them on the lower part of the H supports just above the enclosed area. They are simply two L brackets upside down that are used to keep the front of the table from tipping down when you use the bench. It tips down because I tapered the sides of the table toward the front about 1/3 back to make provide more room to make it easier to slide into the seats when in the dinette mode. Therefore, there is no support on the front of the table and it tips down when sat on. The L brackets prevent that from happening.

Btw, for those who looked at the table and noticed that it is not level, you are correct. Actually the table is level, the camper was not when I installed it. I placed a spirit level on the table to make it level, but forgot to check to see if the camper was level also. Of course it was not, so the table slanted when the camper was level. Not to worry, I have since leveled the table.

Keep up the good work and photos coming. Will be interested in seeing any other improvements you discover.

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Old 11-06-2015, 07:29 PM   #72
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Jim, thank you very much for the quick reply....and for the nice comments!

I hadn't planned on using the plastic split conduct when I started replacing the wiring, but, as the numbers of wires grew, I decided I didn't want the rat nest of wiring that had been there when I got the trailer!

This afternoon I ordered the 30" table support that you used, and a folding table leg. I have a large quantity of 1" solid wide pine boards (over 20 years old) that I may glue into a table size plank, and make my table out of it. But, only because I don't have any 3/4 plywood that is usable for a table.

Thanks again, I really appreciate all of your help,

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Old 11-13-2015, 03:26 PM   #73
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Me again!

Jim, I received the 30" table slide, and the folding table leg yesterday, and have two questions.

You had stated you had reversed the instillation of the two pieces of the table slide because it made attaching the table to the H-bracket easier.

Did you attach the outer (larger) part of the slide to the table or H-bracket?

When I test fitted the table leg, it appeared quite high. Did you cut some off the bottom of the leg, and if so, how much?

You didn't know that you were taking me to raise , did you?

Again, thanks for all your help!

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Old 11-13-2015, 04:00 PM   #74
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Bill,
No problem with questions, like to see your project work out well also.
Bill,

I put the larger, outer piece on the end of the table, and the smaller inner piece on the H woodwork. That way when you want to set up the table, you can rest the larger ridge on the smaller ridge and then just lower the front of the table.

If you install the smaller inner part on the table, you then have to insert it then lift up on the table to get to to catch and then lower the front of the table. It is kind of awkward.


I did cut some of the leg off. It is now 26 inches from the false floor to the bottom of the table. I think I decided on that height as it is the same as the original dining table in relation to the "dance floor" when it is set up.
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Thanks Jim!

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Old 12-02-2015, 03:20 PM   #76
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awesome stuff
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:52 PM   #77
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Charles,

Thanks for your feedback. It's nice to see that others like the results of the modifications and hopefully will be willing to try some or all of them themselves. I am looking forward to seeing how others may make their own improvements to the plans.
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Hi Mr. Scamper Jim,

Another question.....In one of your photos the aluminum dinette table small mounting attachment (that attaches to the wood "H" frame) appears to extend an inch or two past the sides of the "H" frame.

Based upon your actual experience using the table, do you think it would be OK NOT to extend the attachment past the edges of the "H" frame?

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Old 12-07-2015, 12:32 PM   #79
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Hi Bill,

I am on and off the grid here in western Oklahoma very slowly making my way to Sedona, AZ for the Christmas in Sedona FG meet.

The rail extends beyond the H frame as that is the width of the table, however, they don't have to be that long. They can be only as long as the H frame is wide with no difficulty. In fact, I may just trim mine shorter to be flush with the frame.

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Thanks Jim!

Hope you are enjoying the nice Oklahoma sunshine that we are having today!

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Bill,

I forgot to mention that you should drop the table into the bunk position to check the placement of the table support. It has to be forward enough so that the bottom of the leg doesn't hit the front of the camper when it is folded up against the bottom of the table.

I also forgot that I can't reply to a message notice, but have to do so here. I just received notice of that so here is the message I sent on Dec. 8th.
Forget the home projects and hook up to the camper. It was 73 degrees at the bottom of Palo Duro Canyon today with only 9 of us RVers in the whole place. Will be here through Wednesday and then on to Sedona. It would be great if it's that nice there this weekend also, but probably not as it is at about 4,000 feet.
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The really great temps have contined and am in shorts most of the time. Mid 70's all over the place. Hope it holds for thte Christmas in Sedona this weekend.

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Bill,

I forgot to mention that you should drop the table into the bunk position to check the placement of the table support. It has to be forward enough so that the bottom of the leg doesn't hit the front of the camper when it is folded up against the bottom of the table.

I also forgot that I can't reply to a message notice, but have to do so here. I just received notice of that so here is the message I sent on Dec. 8th.
Forget the home projects and hook up to the camper. It was 73 degrees at the bottom of Palo Duro Canyon today with only 9 of us RVers in the whole place. Will be here through Wednesday and then on to Sedona. It would be great if it's that nice there this weekend also, but probably not as it is at about 4,000 feet.
Jim
The really great temps have contined and am in shorts most of the time. Mid 70's all over the place. Hope it holds for thte Christmas in Sedona this weekend.

Jim
Palo Duro Canyon is such a neat place to park. It's strange to be driving across flat country, and then you just drop down into a different world. Lots of Indian history took place in that canyon.

Thanks Jim for the suggestion about checking the dinette table leg placement. I was able to move the leg 1-inch and it folds up just right.

Only problem I had with the dinette table mounting is the sliding aluminum parts won't slide!

However, it's not all that important at this time, and that may change in time. Did you have any problem with non-sliding?

I'm only working a few hours a week on the scamp, but, slowly things are getting accomplished. Sure a lot of small details that take time...

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Bill,

I found that the table does not slide when in the fully down position. The front has to be raised a few inches to release the grip. That is probably to keep the table from shifting while towing.

The weather didn't hold for the drive to Sedona. Had extremely strong head and cross winds with fierce blowing sand all the way from Grants, NM to just before Sedona due to a storm front moving in.

Then Saturday woke up to snow and ice at Sedona, pic attached. It melted though after a while and was a real nice outing. Beautiful rock formations, Christmas events and now being able to put a few faces to names and camper showings.

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Thanks Jim for the reply about the non-sliding dinette table! It's nice knowing that I hadn't goofed up in some manner.

That looks like a very nice camping area. Hopefully the snow hasn't returned!

It was 29 degrees this morning so naturally I didn't do a single thing with the Scamp today.

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