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Old 03-04-2012, 09:17 PM   #1
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Is the kitchen cabinet support needed?

We are doing some modifications to our 13' Scamp. We'd like to clean up the look a bit. We've noticed some folks have removed the metal spiral support that connects the upper and lower kitchen cabinets, while others have kept them on.

We would like to remove it for a cleaner look. Before we commit to that direction, can anyone share if this is truly a needed support item or if it is aesthetic?

Has anyone that removed it had any issues???

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #2
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We are doing some modifications to our 13' Scamp. We'd like to clean up the look a bit. We've noticed some folks have removed the metal spiral support that connects the upper and lower kitchen cabinets, while others have kept them on.

We would like to remove it for a cleaner look. Before we commit to that direction, can anyone share if this is truly a needed support item or if it is aesthetic?

Has anyone that removed it had any issues???

Thank you!

Dan and Sandy
It would be prudent to retain the supports, but you could replace them with something more attractive or just one stronger one on each end of the cabinet.
Here is a picture of one idea, whether it is more attractive is subjective, but it is at least as strong.These are made from some small rectangular steel tubing which was commandeered from an old patio awning. they are attached to my handmade cabinets, since the originals were missing when I bought the trailer. Without the cabinets and supports the trailer was a pillar of jello....
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:50 PM   #3
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Our Boler has never had the kitchen cupboards and there hasn't been a problem. But If, on the other hand they are already in place then I would leave them there. Some owners have experienced roof failure because of lack of support in those areas.
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Our Boler has never had the kitchen cupboards and there hasn't been a problem. But If, on the other hand they are already in place then I would leave them there. Some owners have experienced roof failure because of lack of support in those areas.
Did you intend to say "kitchen cupboard supports", or did your trailer really not have the cupboards themselves?
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:48 PM   #5
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. We'd like to clean up the look a bit. We've noticed some folks have removed the metal spiral support that connects the upper and lower kitchen cabinets, while others have kept them on.

We would like to remove it for a cleaner look. y
I've got that on my to-do list. My thought was that I'd replace the 50's look spiral iron with a stainless steel tube. Maybe incorporate a paper towel rack into it also. Not top of the to-do list but wrought iron is so yesterday.

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Old 03-05-2012, 06:15 AM   #6
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Over the years we've seen the supports replaced with everything from a chrome tube to polished driftwood to plexiglass to stained glass to tiki torches to turned table legs ... Use it as an opportunity to personalize your trailer and make it uniquely your own.

I've never read anyone who had regrets with leaving/changing the supports, but have read regrets from those that removed it entirely. It's your trailer. You make your decisions, you take your chances.

If you change to something else, please posts pics!
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:32 AM   #7
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ok,,,for this question,,,and all other back yard mechanics like me,,, then always have a few bolts left over.......

my brother worked for chrysler experimental for 40 years,,,, so he sort of knows what he is talking about when it comes to stuff they put on things.

i had finished a repair on my truck just as he arrived at my house.
he looked at the leftover bits and parts i had neatly arrainged to dispose of.
and he said, "find out where these go and put them back on......these companies are too cheap to put a single bolt,screw,or washer where it isn't needed."
now i am buying a new scamp, and they sure seem like nice folks at the factory,,,, but my guess is,,, they would not spend money putting that rather unattractive bit of iron in there,,,if it wasn't their experiance that it was vital.
that being said,,,, you could replace it with say,,,, a dorinthian marble pillar?
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Scamp trailer frames do not have metal supports which extend from the frame rail to the outer edge of the floor. So on the sides the shell is only supported by the plywood floor which overhangs the frame rail by about 12". The closet by the door and the cabinets and spiral supports on the other side transfer the load of the shell directly to the frame. Without these supports you have increased flexing and greater possibility of rivet and leak issues in the long run.
The orig. spriral metal provides support but also gives some flexability. I like Floyd's and Ron's suggestion of using tubes. With tube supports you can drill out the end of your mounting plates and run wires from your lower to upper cabinets through the tubes if needed.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:42 AM   #9
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Great advice guys. I suspected it was there for a reason.

We are keeping a somewhat retro look to the Scamp, so we'll likely stay with the original support.

Thanks!

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Thanks Floyd. You're right a correction is needed. My two fingered thoughts got ahead of the flying fingers. Yes, our Boler has the upper cabinets. No, it has never had cupboard suppoert.
Search out a topic by Roy in TO about his problems with a sagging roof.
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Cupboard Supports

We have a set of overhead cupboards on each side of our Scamp, only one set has a support. I have considered replacing the spiral set, whose appearance doesn't bother me, with a piece of counter to cupboard wood. I've done this in my son's trailer and wood looks really nice.

More significantly for me a flat wooden surface allows the mounting of little storage boxes for those many small items, like pen, glasses,....
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We have a set of overhead cupboards on each side of our Scamp, only one set has a support. I have considered replacing the spiral set, whose appearance doesn't bother me, with a piece of counter to cupboard wood. I've done this in my son's trailer and wood looks really nice.

More significantly for me a flat wooden surface allows the mounting of little storage boxes for those many small items, like pen, glasses,....
My Scamp 13 doesn't have the supports, but it is both a deluxe with full perimeter cabinetry and has a bulkhead wall on the fore side of the kitchen for the bathroom.
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We have a set of overhead cupboards on each side of our Scamp, only one set has a support.
Thats a bit strange Norm, mine has two supports on both sides of the trailer ..... wonder why the difference.....
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Carol, It's interesting because I've seen them both ways. I will probably add a wooden one to each cabinet/cupboard, another opportunity to add a little organization by mounting things on the wooden support, maybe even turn it into a thin cabinet.
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