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03-31-2014, 03:01 PM
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Lifted truck towing
Hey all. Just got a 1974 trillium 1300 from my grandparents and im in the process of restoring it. Not it rough shape at all just cosmetic stuff mostly. The issue i have though is that i have a lifted truck i will be towing it with, a 1979 international harvester scout 2. Its lifted on 36 imch tires and im wondering if there is something out there i can do to make towing this trailer at a little less of an angle. Also i will be towing it on remote offroad trails so im wondering if teres anyone out there who has altered the suspension to be alittle more offroad friendly yet still able to be towed down the highway. Thanks, Dylan
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03-31-2014, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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How high is your receiver off the ground?
A big drop hitch might do, like these:
Results for BIG DROP HITCHES
You could also swap out the axle on your trailer, raising it by using a higher down angle (45 degree), and the high lift option. That would make your trailer more unstable by altering the center of gravity.
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03-31-2014, 03:40 PM
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Junior Member
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The reciever is about 3.5 feet off the ground
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03-31-2014, 03:50 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
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Towing a trailer behind your Scout will only make the whole train that much more unstable, and raising the trailer will only exacerbate an already really bad situation.
Maybe something like this might work out better for off road towing, and the other guys won't call you a sissy for bringing your own apartment along.
1983 StarCraft 14 Foot Photos by advocateone | Photobucket
Flip the axle under the springs and add 13" wheels and it will follow you anywhere.
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03-31-2014, 03:57 PM
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Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,224
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I doubt you would fine a gall mount with that much drop.
How high are the bumper mounts on the truck. I know here in Alberta, they have to be 40-50 cm (16-20 in) above the ground. You may be fine in your local, but should maybe check into places you will be travelling. Here is a link to the regs for various provinces/states.
Bumper Height | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws
BTW, congrats on your new trailer, and share with us photos of your restoration work. You should fill out your user info in the User CP, to show your name, local and trailer.
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03-31-2014, 04:23 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Conrad
Trailer: Bigfoot 3000 & Barth "slide-in" truck camper
Connecticut
Posts: 958
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I agree with the over suggestions of putting he axle under the spring and taller trailer tires. You can custom make any size drop on a ball mount and pull it most places. Stow things well. I added stainless steel and bungees across my cabinet doors, and some from the knobs to make dude everything stays put.
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03-31-2014, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
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I was suggesting the spring over axle and larger tires on the StarCraft off-road trailer shown in the link, not on a Trillium. Doing that on a Trill will only serve to make it less stable on the highway.
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03-31-2014, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member
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In California I see custom truck's higher than your's with drop hitch towing boats very frequently so they are out there. If you can't find one here, a 4x4 forum would know where I bet. Maybe your local offroad accessory store.
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03-31-2014, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Class A Motorhome
Posts: 7,912
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Yep, I see them too, but that doesn't make it a good idea.
Most of those trucks I see are the obligatory extra long wheelbase 4 door + bed models, a lot better ratio than found on a Scout (I know, I used to have one)
Beside that, most boats have: A) Very heavy hitch weight, a low center of gravity and C) minimal cross section, meaning less sensitivity to cross winds. All make a bad situation not as bad as it might be with a lightweight FGRV.
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03-31-2014, 07:44 PM
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Junior Member
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My bad, i meant 2.5. Sorry
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03-31-2014, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Miller
I was suggesting the spring over axle and larger tires on the StarCraft off-road trailer shown in the link, not on a Trillium. Doing that on a Trill will only serve to make it less stable on the highway.
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Trilliums have torsion axles. Not hard to raise them to today's standard of 18" ball height. Means the OP needs approximately a 14" drop.
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03-31-2014, 08:21 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
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If the Trillium is level at 18" and the receiver is 2' 5" then A Reese 11" Drop mount should do the trick.
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03-31-2014, 08:51 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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I see tons of high 4x4 trucks with loooong vertical stingers. This is one place however, that I wouldn't think of skimping on quality. Carol provided a good link
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03-31-2014, 09:53 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Ben
Trailer: Truck Camper & 5th Wheel TT
California
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Contact etrailer.com also, SoCalLiftedTrucks.com, Pirate4x4.com, Morris4x4.com, and just Google with your question concerning lifted truck towing a trailer.
Ben
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04-01-2014, 03:07 PM
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Junior Member
Name: F.l.
Trailer: Perris Pacer
New Mexico
Posts: 23
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My perris has a straight axle, flipped and 4" shackles.
Tows like a dream. And jeeps are rated poorly in the realm of tow vehicles.
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04-01-2014, 03:15 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Ben
Trailer: Truck Camper & 5th Wheel TT
California
Posts: 3
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Fmspeed,
Nice looking setup.
Ben
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04-01-2014, 05:01 PM
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Junior Member
Name: F.l.
Trailer: Perris Pacer
New Mexico
Posts: 23
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Thanks, it coming along. Soon it will have matching wheels to the jeep.
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04-01-2014, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member
Name: David
Trailer: Former 13’Scamp, now Snoozy
Arizona
Posts: 2,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fmspeed
My perris has a straight axle, flipped and 4" shackles.
Tows like a dream. And jeeps are rated poorly in the realm of tow vehicles.
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Our JK Wrangler sits on 6" lift & 37" tires. Hitch is 30" from the ground. I used a 7" drop held tight by a "HITCH VICE" and the trailer rides on ADJUSTABLE "Flexiride" axle. Trailer & Jeep never had sway or unstable feel to it, and was able to get into real remote areas. A fellow Jeeper did what Bob Miller suggested and set up a small Coleman pop-up that exact way.
Dave & Paula
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04-01-2014, 09:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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I'm a wuusss. Like being safe, can't help that. But when I changed the axle on my Scamp went for 45 degrees down on the Dexter and 15" tires.. ZERO regrets. Tows behind the Ford F-150 better than the old axle.... ever.. SWEET.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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