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Old 09-24-2014, 12:04 PM   #15
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Nice job. I like the viewing ports.

I did something similar with our Scamp 5er.
: should of know it was yours Peter I saw. You have some very cool modifications.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:18 AM   #16
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I agree. I'm around 6' - 210lbs. I tried it out for fit and would do better sitting on cassette while showering, but I agree, it is nice to have when no other option is available.







I couldn't see paying the extra $500.00 for the Theadford cassette toilet, because it is essentially the same as the standard Theadford portable toilet (empties the same way). I always remove the toilet (very easy) prior to showering, as it gives a lot of room to be able to turn around, bend over, etc.

With all the problems Theadford has had with the "blue" hose bursting, I'm glad I did not go that route.

Dave & Paula

Kind of off topic but my 'blue hose' burst again last weekend, under 12v pump pressure no less. First time was easy to fix through the little door. This time I had to take the toilet out to get to the other end. Replaced it with 175 psi hose from the hardware store.


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Old 09-25-2014, 11:27 AM   #17
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What's up with that "blue" hose I keep reading about. I hope those guys at the factory are paying close attention here. How much $ would it cost to replace that cheap hose with something that will last. I can't think of anything worse than a water leak while out camping even if the tub is fiberglass.
I did inquire about this during my visit and Richard sort of shrugged it off and claimed that the "blue" hose was no longer an issue with the newer campers.
If Richard ever calls me with a quote on my build plans I'll bring the subject up.

Dave: I'll check on the pump toilet too, thanks!
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Old 09-25-2014, 01:56 PM   #18
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Here is what Richard posted on the LS forum:

Dear Snoozy Owner’s
We have been made aware that a few Snoozy owners have experienced a failure with the cassette toilet resulting in water leakage. It is possible that high water pressure may have been the cause, and that it could be prevented by using a water pressure regulator. 40 – 80 psi is an acceptable range for the cassette toilet. It is also important to properly winterize the cassette toilet and its components by following the winterization instructions contained in the C-200 owner’s manual. If you no longer have the cassette toilets manual please click on the link listed below.
We have been in contact with Thetford and have expressed our concerns regarding this issue and at this time are waiting to hear back from them regarding any follow-up measures that should be taken by the customer. It’s important for the customer to register the product through Thetford and to report any concerns regarding warranty directly to Thetford.
We at Lil’ Snoozy, LLC are not at liberty to alter the products manufactured by Thetford. Thetford provides their own 1 year warranty coverage for their toilets. If you experience any problem what-so-ever with the Thetford cassette please immediately contact their customer service department at Thetford Europe | Mobile toilet & kitchen solutions since 1960.
For parts and/or service - including those under warranty - contact a local Thetford Certified Service Center (CSC) or an RV Dealer. Or, call Thetford's Customer Service Department for information at 1-800-543-1219.
Under the Warranty Program, Thetford replaces or repairs toilets and/or parts, and reimburses for warranty labor.
Thetford Cassette C - 200 CW/S/CS Installation & Owner’s Manual Link:
Cassette C - 200 CW/S/CS PDF

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Thanks for posting that info Charlie, I must have missed that over in LSC's site.
It's good that Snoozy is aware and in contact with Thetford. I don't manufacture campers, but if I did I wouldn't want to install products on my rigs that could make me or my company look bad. I'm sure Snoozy doesn't either. As a courtesy I would just replace the crappy hose with a good one as I was installing it, that's just me. I'm sure the Thetford warranty won't allow them to mess around and alter their products, so in that case, and if Thetford is not willing to fix the problem, I would just find a more reliable product to offer my customers. Maybe there isn't a better product out there. I saw the set up in person and really liked how it looked and operated, but not at the expense of possibly flooding my brand new baby . I hate water issues, that's just me. I'm not so sure water pressure is always the culprit either. Most knowledgable campers (and I said MOST) understand about inconsistant campground water pressures and use reducing valves. Look at Denny's example above. His hose blowed out using his on board water pump (which I'm assuming was installed by Snoozy), and it sounds like this wasn't the first time his hose blew or came loose. Hopefully the new stronger replacement hose Denny installed will correct the problem. It has come to my attention by Dave that the Thetford portable (removable) model is standard equipment on the Snoozy. I wasn't made aware of that when visiting, but I didn't ask either. It's not electric (correct me if I'm wrong Dave) and doesn't have the outside door for removing the waste tank. So that would be an option over the electric model which is permanently attached and harder to work on. We've use a Thetford portable electric model for years with our popup and it has always performed flawlessly.
Listen, I'm not picking on the guys at Snoozy because of these issue with the "blue" hose. They don't make the cassette, they just install it. Richard and his staff were awesome when we were visiting and really impressed me with their desire to supply great customer service. But my wife and I are seriously looking at their camper and want to be aware of any customer issues before we commit. I'm not the least bit worried about incidental issues that may come up with the camper. If you own something mechanical, things are going to eventually break or wear out. I actually enjoy fixing and making improvments, it's a hobby. I completely restored our Coleman popup from the ground up so I wouldn't have any issues while camping. You wouldn't believe the shotty factory assembly line crap I found while stripping down that "top of the line" popup. She's now solid as an oak and better than anything the factory puts out! The Snoozy shell & interior is a pretty simple design, and if we commit, my build will come less than half finished so I'm going to know exactly what went into it when I'm finished. But I have no patience when it comes to water leaks, which probably stems from a major leak we had in our home a few years back while away on vacation.
We are still planning a tour of the Parkliner factory, which is only a short drive away, to check out their factory & FG egg. The next time I talk to Snoozy I'll see what the latest information and customer experience has been on their recent cassette installs. Like Dave, I may just go with the portable deal and eliminate any worries about leaks.
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Kind of off topic but my 'blue hose' burst again last weekend, under 12v pump pressure no less. First time was easy to fix through the little door. This time I had to take the toilet out to get to the other end. Replaced it with 175 psi hose from the hardware store.


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This is a problem I have seen before and I have used products similar to this one to protect low pressure valves & connections in the past. Looks like cheap insurance:

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This is a problem I have seen before and I have used products similar to this one to protect low pressure valves & connections in the past. Looks like cheap insurance:

In-Line Water Pressure Regulator

This time it blew out with the 12v pump. We weren't hooked up to city water. Both times the rupture was right on the end so perhaps the clamps Thetford uses are damaging the hose. Perhaps the persons installing the clamps at the Therford factory are damaging the hose.

BTW, there is a drain hole in the body right under the toilet so nothing gets flooded.


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