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Old 03-02-2013, 12:36 AM   #15
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whatever you do, don't substitute dish washing liquid for dish washer detergent.
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whatever you do, don't substitute dish washing liquid for dish washer detergent.
No kidding, you'd end up having a rollin' bubble machine!
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:58 AM   #17
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Dishwashers are not CAMPING !
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Dishwashers are not CAMPING !
If you're going to nitpick..

Fiberglass RV's are not technically "camping".
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Slav, water and power to run DW are available at most serviced campsites, furthermore, my thinking is the dishwasher tray/basket will help to drain dishes that are hand washed and as accessible storage while at camp. Dishes/mugs/silverware would be put away for travel and we could stick some towels or clothing in the DW to snug tray/basket prior to travel.

My concern is whether the DW would break down due to the travel in the trailer, vibrations and bumps, etc. What do you think?
I know what you mean...was just being funny. We usually stay at rustic campgrounds that rarely have water in the sites, let alone electric hookup.

Can't say how it would fare in the rig though. Guess it depends if it is made delicate or not.
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If you're going to nitpick..

Fiberglass RV's are not technically "camping".
Backpackers probably say the same thing about tent campers, if they can stand up in the tent and put their pants on

I believe folks should mod a trailer to fit them and their lifestyle. If I was choosing, I'd like a built in fireplace or at least one that looks like a real fireplace. And yes, I've seen the stand alones...
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:02 PM   #21
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Personally, I think it's a really interesting mod to try!

If I did that, I would locate it somewhere that would have a good secondary use if it does break down from vibration or doesn't work out. Build it in so that the space can be easily made into a cabinet or drawers.

Good luck! Go for it! Of course, be sure to let us know how it works out!
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:04 PM   #22
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Hello there, that is exactly the plan, if the DW breaks down or I get prosecuted by the purist campers enforcement police or something, ill mod it back to cabinets or drawers.

great input guys! keep 'em coming
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Personally, I think it's a really interesting mod to try!

If I did that, I would locate it somewhere that would have a good secondary use if it does break down from vibration or doesn't work out. Build it in so that the space can be easily made into a cabinet or drawers.

Good luck! Go for it! Of course, be sure to let us know how it works out!
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Hi Luis - I think a dishwaher sounds like an interesting, innovative idea. Not my style - but its not my trailer. The RV world has plenty of room for folks who try new mods and I wish you you fun and joy from this one.

I'm looking forward to reading about any other changes you want to make to turn your trailer into your dream home on wheels.
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We have a wireless automatic dishwasher ............... he who does not cook ........
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:56 PM   #25
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My concern is whether the DW would break down due to the travel in the trailer, vibrations and bumps, etc. What do you think?
Our Danby dishwasher had no trouble installed in a large fifth-wheel (in the location intended for a clothes washer), but the trailer was used in one place at a time for long periods, and was only towed about 3000 km with the dishwasher in it.

The dishwashers in large motorhomes tend to be drawer-type designs intended for home use, typically the Fisher&Paykel.

I would want any dishwasher to be near the axle, both for trailer balance and for less jarring with bounces.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:57 PM   #26
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Galley update

After a bit of work on the weekend, I have managed to locate (temporarily) key components of the working bathroom.

Left side: freezer (cooler + refrigeration system) on slide out and Dishwasher
Center: Drawers and Oven/range
Right side: fridge (cooler running with glycol cubes and ice), port a potty, sink, converts to bathroom.

The counter will pivot up 90 deg. and latch to the overhead counter effectively making a vertical partition. Another slide out partition closes the bottom side and the closet's door also slides forward to complete a fully enclosed bathroom/mudroom/ wet clothesline space/ wet cleaning area for boots or dog, etc.

Port a potty is stored under sink and can be used with cooler in place for road emergencies, or more comfortable at night at camp (the cooler shroud be left outside or in the car...

I am planning a single faucet with pull out for shower/cleaning purposes. Also a hand pump to use without turning on the pump when camping off the grid.

Some pics to show some details as the set up takes place.
Please feel free to ask and comments, your insights are always welcomed.
L

NOTE: the stove top will be at a higher elevation, flush with the DW and sink, approximately at 39" high from the floor +0.00 ref.
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I would want any dishwasher to be near the axle, both for trailer balance and for less jarring with bounces.
Brian, I think you are right on the concern on tongue weight specially, all these appliances and cabinets in the front, plus propane bottle etc... I need to watch out and balance with batteries, water tanks, water heaters, etc in the back.

As for your comment on jarring, I disagree, the more "over the axle" the more direct hit! I think.

Anyways, thanks and keep your insights coming this way, much appreciated.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:40 PM   #28
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Brian, I think you are right on the concern on tongue weight specially, all these appliances and cabinets in the front, plus propane bottle etc... I need to watch out and balance with batteries, water tanks, water heaters, etc in the back.

As for your comment on jarring, I disagree, the more "over the axle" the more direct hit! I think.
If the flexibility of the trailer structure cushions shock, then I can see the ride being smoother away from the axle... but I hope the frame is stiffer than that. What I was thinking was that when the wheels go over a bump, at least the back end of the trailer is on the wrong end of a lever and gets an even bigger bump. I have heard people complain that this is a problem with rear kitchens, and anyone who has ridden in the back of a school bus on a country road might understand.

With this front kitchen design I agree that the ride would be even better up there, between the two supporting points of the axle and hitch. I was actually concerned about a rear kitchen location when I wrote my note - sorry, I had missed that this is in the front.

Even with a smooth ride location up front, I would still want to keep the massive components together for stability. A design that puts them all up front would be great for stability, but there is that tongue weight challenge and if the reaction to that is to pile stuff at the extreme tail end the stability advantage would be eliminated.
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