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Old 06-05-2013, 03:56 PM   #15
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Mike, With the belly band surgery I am doing, I have the edges of the ridge that the belly band sat on for land marks. I plan to sand / fill till I am flush with the two edges. How do you plan to move the ridge on the door?
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:24 PM   #16
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David, I plan on cutting it off with a 4" angle grinder. Or, starting like that to see how much structural integrity I'll have to worry about.
If I can't move it without destroying the door, I'll first build up the fiberglass to where the top line needs to be, then take off the bottom of the hump.
I say all this without ever seeing the inside of the door. If needed, one could build up the fiberglass from the inside to keep from losing the integrity off the door.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:48 PM   #17
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Looking good David! Make sure to mention the safety precautions -- you are using a breathing mask aren't you?

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David, I plan on cutting it off with a 4" angle grinder. Or, starting like that to see how much structural integrity I'll have to worry about.
If I can't move it without destroying the door, I'll first build up the fiberglass to where the top line needs to be, then take off the bottom of the hump.
I say all this without ever seeing the inside of the door. If needed, one could build up the fiberglass from the inside to keep from losing the integrity off the door.
That surgery is one I'd like to see. Please post pictures when you do it.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:02 AM   #19
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Looking good David! Make sure to mention the safety precautions -- you are using a breathing mask aren't you?

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Breathing mask, goggles and a bunny suit. My next door neighbor's kid was playing outside, and I held back from grinding till she went inside. Safety first.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:40 AM   #20
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Breathing mask, goggles and a bunny suit
does it have ears and a tail? Sorry
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It is quite a bit of nasty dusty work, and that is just getting the demo done. When I did the 13' Trillium a PO had previously removed the belly band and filled the recess between the two halves w/ sillycon. A bear to get it all out-was still fighting it when it came to priming time. I did all of the filling and smoothing with epoxy resin filled w/ micro balloons to give it more body. It still sagged and took 24 + hours between coats. This summer I have the 4500 to do and I plan on a primary filler of epoxy and fibreglass tape and final smoothing and filling w/ fibreglass bondo ( with kitty hair in it) Hope that goes faster-shorter drying time w/ the bondo product. I know it will take multiple coats. Keep up the thread David because there are people watching and hoping for an easier way. I do prefer the no band look on a Trillium- the raised body line on which the band is centered is enough detail w/out the metal trim . IMHO.
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Metal Plate Removal

This is the technique that worked best for me.
1. Cut the metal plate with a Dremmel cut off wheel
2. Pry one of the cut halfs up so that a pair of needle nose plyers can get a grip.
3. Pull the half plate out. This may take some tugging from side to side.
4. Pull the other half out.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:00 AM   #23
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Prep for Glassing

The grinding residue has been wiped off, and I have taped news paper to protect the bottom of the trailer from drips.

The first picture is the best picture I could get of where I found large bubbles between the shells of the trailer and the inside bandage that was put over the metal plates in the belly band. I will be filling these in with successive layers of glass mat and resin. The goal is to get a relatively flat surface for the glass bandage that I will be putting over the outside.

This weekend I was filling in the holes, left by the metal plates, with glass mat and resin. No pictures yet. Tomorrow probably.
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For comparison here's how the new ones are done. They did a poor job on the inside "bandage" resulting in leaks. I took the pictures when we did the repairs. Dave, Good thread. I'm taking notes for future reference. Raz
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Raz, It looks like Trillium RV use the same washer approach that Trillium / Outback use. Hopefully they use a stainless steel washer, and rivets, so you won't have to do this for some time. I would caulk the top of the belly band to prevent water getting in the pocket in the first place.

I have completed glassing in about 25% of the belly band. It takes about three layers of glass to get back to flush, more in some places. I have about six layers where the metal plates used to be. There is about 34 feet of belly band. This is 102 feet of fibreglass strips. After work, I am doing about 8 feet of one layer a day. This represents half an hour to an hour of work a day. Ten week days to go. I will probably get more per day done on the weekend, but with five kids, there are no guarantees.
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Saw a house fly once but never heard a belly band.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:32 AM   #27
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Glassing

This does not include Suday's progress.
Two by two, hands of blue.
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Old 06-17-2013, 09:56 AM   #28
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Getting there! Can't wait till the priming/painting begins!
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