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09-25-2015, 08:48 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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New Deadbolt lock on Scamp
I followed the example of many on this site and installed a Stainless Steel deadbolt lock on our Scamp over the past weekend. It took about 2 hours and I am pleased with the result. I used a 1 ½ inch hole saw to drill thru the door and that proved much easier than expected. The "strike plate" ended up being an aluminum angle modified a bit with saw, sander and drills. The brass strap to strengthen the walnut mounting was chosen from my scrap pile for size and easy sawing. I may paint it silver to match the Scamp door hardware better. I had considered cutting a rectangular hole in the rat fur and gluing the walnut block to the underlying fiberglass, but in the end just added a couple of screws and called it done.
No fgrv door is crowbar proof, I just wanted to add another and rarer key to the entry. And the DW feels much more secure, no small consideration in itself. Scamp's "small pin in the lock" method, while secure in my opinion, didn't assure her. Also, while never a problem for me, the "door opening while towing" phenonana would be remedied as well
I still have not solved the vulnerability of the door hinges. That will take many more hours of armchair cogitation.
Thanks to all who made this journey before me and shared their ideas on this site.
Now its off for 10 days of boon docking on the South shore of Lake Superior to enjoy hiking, Fall color and crashing surf.
Cheers, and Happy Trails, john
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09-25-2015, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,912
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Outstanding work, John!
Did you do anything to seal the interior core of the door where you cut the hole? I've heard that's a vulnerability and possible cause of waterlogged, warped doors on older Scamps (and applies equally to the original factory hole, too).
You ought to market this!
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09-25-2015, 09:29 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
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Sorry guys....while that it a VERY neat installation, I have to ask, IF you're going to go to that much trouble, why not just go with this type of installation and be done? Works MUCHHHHH better than the old bread truck-looking handle. Plus, you dont have to use a "pin" plus the same key locks/unlocks the latch AND deadbolt. Plus, it just looks much more professional. Dunno why Scamp will NOT offer this as an option! And...finally...there's not an extra hole in the door.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/503516...57643963773193
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09-25-2015, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Remind me to put a dead bolt lock on my tent.
Hinges -- two nuts and the doors is off.
Door -- a quick upward yank on the bottom and the door breaks in half.
In my opinion putting dead bolt on Scamp door is telling everybody there's something valuable inside. Without it its just another Scamp.
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Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
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09-25-2015, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,519
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John;
It was rumored that Scamp was going to equip all Scamp Trailers with that same type of deadbolt lock a few years ago, but it never came to fruition. Great job as usual!
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09-25-2015, 09:43 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
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WHY would Scamp do that? When you could put a standard RV lock on it? Typical Scamp.
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Originally Posted by floyd
John;
It was rumored that Scamp was going to equip all Scamp Trailers with that same type of deadbolt lock a few years ago, but it never came to fruition. Great job as usual!
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09-25-2015, 09:45 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
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Do you lock your door when you exit the Scamp?
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Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
Remind me to put a dead bolt lock on my tent.
Hinges -- two nuts and the doors is off.
Door -- a quick upward yank on the bottom and the door breaks in half.
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09-25-2015, 09:47 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darral T.
Do you lock your door when you exit the Scamp?
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Not always. But then I'm not paranoid.
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Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
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09-25-2015, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darral T.
Sorry guys....while that it a VERY neat installation, I have to ask, IF you're going to go to that much trouble, why not just go with this type of installation and be done? Works MUCHHHHH better than the old bread truck-looking handle. Plus, you dont have to use a "pin" plus the same key locks/unlocks the latch AND deadbolt. Plus, it just looks much more professional. Dunno why Scamp will NOT offer this as an option! And...finally...there's not an extra hole in the door.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/503516...57643963773193
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Darrel,
I'm not sure why I didn't go this route. I guess I didn't want to give up Scamp's retro handle, though I have changed out other Scamp choices throughout the trailer. So I really can't answer your question. Your solution is certainly a good one.
John
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Camping since 1960 - Scamp 13' Oak
Subaru Outback 4 cyl cvt
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09-25-2015, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
Outstanding work, John!
Did you do anything to seal the interior core of the door where you cut the hole?
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Jon,
I did bed the outside portion of the deadbolt in a high-quality elastomeric sealant. That should prevent most leaks, though the keyhole remains open.
John
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09-25-2015, 10:02 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 1,704
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Your work is top-quality. I just personally didnt like others walking around with the ability to lock/unlock my Scamp at will. (Of course your deadbolt will prevent that anyway)
Oh...btw! When you gonna design and make us a "Scamp" toy?? I've looked at your sight over the years.....great work!
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Originally Posted by John Linck
Darrel,
I'm not sure why I didn't go this route. I guess I didn't want to give up Scamp's retro handle, though I have changed out other Scamp choices throughout the trailer. So I really can't answer your question. Your solution is certainly a good one.
John
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09-25-2015, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
Remind me to put a dead bolt lock on my tent.
Hinges -- two nuts and the doors is off.
Door -- a quick upward yank on the bottom and the door breaks in half.
In my opinion putting dead bolt on Scamp door is telling everybody there's something valuable inside. Without it its just another Scamp.
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All valid points Byron. Can't refute them.
Cheers, john
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09-25-2015, 10:17 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1990 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darral T.
Oh...btw! When you gonna design and make us a "Scamp" toy?? I've looked at your sight over the years.....great work!
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Not likely to happen Darral. A toy Scamp would have limited appeal, just like real Scamps. And I know of no wood that looks like white fiberglass and I'm too obstinate to paint my toys. Also the folks on FGRV aren't really my target demographic. Me either for that matter. We are mostly a bunch of frugal curmudgeons and not likely to buy spendy toys. And what kinda tow vehicle would I pair it with? And the Casita, Boler, Oliver, etc. owners would want customized versions too. That could get really complicated.
If I were into toy RVs I might go for the Prevost owners. Not as cool, but those folks certainly have discretionary income.
All the above was an attempt at humor. No insults toward anyone.
John
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09-27-2015, 01:24 PM
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Junior Member
Name: AyoLane
Trailer: Scamp
Florida
Posts: 13
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I have been thinking about this same idea. Main reason was sleeping at night there is no way to lock the door on the inside. Today I now have another reason. driving a bumpy road the locked door somehow opened. I didn't noticed it till after 30 mins on a highway and 45 mins eating at the oldest diner in FL. saw the door open just before I got on the road again. Ill forever check the door now but would also like the extra lock for both reasons. I've been full timing it for 3 months now.
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09-27-2015, 02:27 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AyoLane
I have been thinking about this same idea. Main reason was sleeping at night there is no way to lock the door on the inside. Today I now have another reason. driving a bumpy road the locked door somehow opened. I didn't noticed it till after 30 mins on a highway and 45 mins eating at the oldest diner in FL. saw the door open just before I got on the road again. Ill forever check the door now but would also like the extra lock for both reasons. I've been full timing it for 3 months now.
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Go to the Scamp parts store and buy a new latching mechanism, replace the latch. $16.00 gets a new latch and six screws replaces it. I had the same problem and it's all fixed now.
After spending 50+ years camping in a tent the last thing I worry about is locking the door while I'm sleeping.
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Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
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09-27-2015, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,547
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I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=pd_bia_yo_t_2 but have not installed it yet. I figure I will need to shim it out on the inside with a 1/4" piece of something (probably Oak or Maple, but a piece of plastic would be nice). The advantage to this one is the lock is flush on the outside.
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09-29-2015, 01:49 AM
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Member
Name: Danny
Trailer: Scamp
Texas
Posts: 43
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I think putting a heave duty lock on a Scamp would be like locking the doors on a Convertible. You will just end up with a cut top!
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09-29-2015, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,547
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I am not putting this lock on because it is heavy duty, I just want the same lock to be able to be locked and unlocked from the inside and the outside. I want to be able to get up and go outside and lock the door with my daughter still asleep inside. She can get out simply by turning the thumb latch. I have also had the door come open underway, albeit from me not getting it closed well enough, but this lock will solve that issue also. And if I had a convertible, I would probably lock the doors on it too.
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09-29-2015, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Emily
Trailer: 2005 Scamp 16
Colorado
Posts: 505
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman
After spending 50+ years camping in a tent the last thing I worry about is locking the door while I'm sleeping.
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We actually sleep with the screen door open for the breeze and air flow....Aside from being on the road, I don't think we've locked our Scamp yet! But then, I also never lock the car I drive because the auto key lock doesn't work and I'm too lazy to actually unlock the doors using the key. I just tell the kids not to leave anything in my car they are afraid might get stolen!
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09-29-2015, 08:00 AM
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Junior Member
Name: AyoLane
Trailer: Scamp
Florida
Posts: 13
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In Florida the AC is used more than the screens. Locking from the inside is just an extra check.
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