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Old 06-07-2007, 11:36 PM   #15
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My top's not really 'spring-loaded', but there are what I would call helper springs on the hinges/lift mechanism. They aren't a whole lot of help really, it's still a bit of a lift for me to push it up into place and hold it while I slip the lock arms into place. From what I've seen in online pics, I THINK that Compact Juniors have two sets of scissor type lift mechanisms on each side, maybe because the roof panel is longer than on a Compact II? The Compact II's, at least mine and from what I've seen in pics, only have one set of scissor lift/mechanism on each side. Also my lift mechanisms for the top are on the INSIDE of the tent material, is that how everybody else's is???? And my Compact II seem's pretty much original, with only a few minor tweaks here and there, so I'm guessing that the lift mechanisms and all are totally original too.
I'm actually just back from a big camping trip, 5 days in the desert with the family. And the trailer performed BEAUTIFULLY! It was fun watching my folks have trouble with their fancy expensive rental motorhome monster, while I sipped cool drinks from my 30 yr old refridgerator...LOL
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Old 06-08-2007, 02:45 PM   #16
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Thanks Bpbbie.Maybe you could post a picture of the mechanism
sometime.Mine is held up by a pin that is placed thru the mech.
so it does't slide back .
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Old 06-08-2007, 05:26 PM   #17
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My lift mechanism on the Campster is outside the tent material, and yes, I'll get a picture of it. I need to get a new spring put on one side (I found where to buy them, but haven't yet figured out how I'm going to install it- the springs aren't easy to stretch manually.

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Old 06-11-2007, 07:19 AM   #18
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On my sister's CJ, the vent was leaking, and of course the roof was sagging too. So before I replaced the vent, I built some reinforcing ribs out of 1/2 electrical conduit. They're slightly arched, and the ends are flattened and turn downwards; two bolts go through the vertical part of the popup to secure them in place. Givs the roof a nice arch, and made it a lot easier to install the new vent with some assurance it wouldn't leak.

Her top mechanism has no "helper" springs.

And the inside of her trailer has no quilted material. I suspect the quilted material someone had on his might have been a factory option.

I'll try to attach a picture showing my roof ribs and popup mechanism.
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:30 AM   #19
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Nice pics there Steve, wow, your lift mechanisms are TOTALLY different from mine! I wonder if it's a Compact II VS Compact Jr thing though or what?
I do get the impression, from the various pics I've seen, that a CJ has (because of it having a LONGER popup than a C2) two different lift points on each side of the popup, while a C2 like mine (with the shorter length popup section) only has one lift point on each side. Also, I would never have thought that any Compact would need a vent on the popup since it has the little vent windows all around. I guess that's just a personal preference though...
BOY do we need to have a Hunter Structures Only Rally, just to see all of our rigs up close, to REALLY see the variety of variations/differences, huh? hehe
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ALSO I forgot to ask Bobby, if you're lift mechanisms are on the OUTSIDE of your tent material, how do you access them? Does your tent material have special openings for that or something??
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:37 AM   #21
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Nice pics there Steve, wow, your lift mechanisms are TOTALLY different from mine! I wonder if it's a Compact II VS Compact Jr thing though or what?
I do get the impression, from the various pics I've seen, that a CJ has (because of it having a LONGER popup than a C2) two different lift points on each side of the popup, while a C2 like mine (with the shorter length popup section) only has one lift point on each side.
(My sister took the pics so any praise properly belongs to her.) Sis' CJ defintely has two lift points per side (four total), and the pop-up roof is full-length. You basically push the top up by hand, then pin the legs so it doesn't come back down again. In the down position, there are three Jeep hood latches to hold it, plus the lift mechanisms get pinned too.

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Also, I would never have thought that any Compact would need a vent on the popup since it has the little vent windows all around. I guess that's just a personal preference though...
Heh. Never thought of that.

But it's perfectly feasible to use the trailer with the pop-top down (especially if you're short), and the vent would be handy then. (feeble rationalization, I know.)
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I'll try to get pictures up later today. Mine has the spring and frame on the outside and inside it has hooks you pull down and latch to KEEP it from going up.

While we are on this: The Campster seems to have a very solid support just fore of the pop-top. I was thinking of putting a room AC up there (set it in place for use, with some kind of support, and remove it in transit. I'd just have to pop the screen out of that section of the top. Any opinions?

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Old 06-12-2007, 11:00 AM   #23
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Here's the pop-top mechanism on my Campster. This is on the outside on either side. It doesn't spring up spontaneously but a little boost sends it up. Inside, there are handles on bungees that you pull down, and then lock to keep it down. There are also cabinet-type handles to help you pull it down. The spring runs along the bottom of the X of the mechanism; if you want a close up of it I can send you a higher resolution picture if you email me.

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:51 PM   #24
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Thanks Bobby.That mechanism looks good for the smaller pop
top.It is much like the set up on my old 69 VW campmobile.
I like the idea of the ribs made for the bigger tops on the C-J
and plan to do that to help support the extra weight the carpet
puts on the top.I may go to the junk yard and find a VW
camper to get the inside bar that was in the middle of the
top.That was very helful in raising and lowering.
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Hey Bobbie,
Great pic there, gives me some idea of how yours works. I'm still a little unsure though, so once you have gotten the top up, between the spring and you pushing up on it a little, does it just stay up, or is there some prop rod or something, or what?

On my CII, there are springs, but I think they're just meant as helpers, to get the top up a little easier. THen once you get the top fully up, there's another special brace that swings down and screws into the 'lock' position with a thumbscrew. There is one of these braces on each of it's two scissor mechanisms. My top also has four of the (apparently traditional) Jeep hood style hold downs that hold the top in the down position, for traveling, storage or whatever.
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Hey Bobbie,
Great pic there, gives me some idea of how yours works. I'm still a little unsure though, so once you have gotten the top up, between the spring and you pushing up on it a little, does it just stay up, or is there some prop rod or something, or what?
I'm pretty sure it will just stay up. Right now one of the springs is loose so I prop one side up with a piece of wood but once I fix it I think it will pop up and stay. But the Campster has only a short roof that pops up so it is probably lighter.

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Joseph, I really like the idea of a Hunter Structures Only rally! How about near Olympia, Washington State? tee-hee.

My brother Steve did a ton of updates/redos/modifications on Junior over the winter. Re-doing the pop-top roof's cross-bars was certainly a big thing, though. He said when it got done it would look like the Sistine Chapel, it had taken so much craftsmanship, and by golly, in my eyes seeing the completed project indeed it DID look somewhat like the Sistine Chapel!

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