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Old 11-05-2013, 10:40 AM   #15
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I really like the battery box. Nice looking.
And it looks like many won't even know it's
a battery box. Incognito?........LOL
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:45 AM   #16
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I really like the battery box. Nice looking.
And it looks like many won't even know it's
a battery box. Incognito?........LOL
I sure like it. It's a real elegant design solution to a problem. ParkLiners are exceptionally well designed in general! Of course, I'm biased...

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Old 11-05-2013, 11:27 AM   #17
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It appears that it will just drop in the frame behind the propane and the battery weight should keep it there. The top may need another attachment method, but the bottom can just drop in without any screws.
Yup which is how many other trailer manufactures mount them when using a custom cover and no bottom on the box itself.

We are all here to learn and share our experiences. I like most others here are not wishing bad will on PL. Simple as others have stated time and time again hopeful that they will resolve their current issues and make a success of themselves.

In the industry I worked in where beams of this type were used as structural members it was considered best practises to avoid screwing anything more than necessary into them, to avoid degrading structural integrity, for more than one reason. Your experience may well be different. That's fine, we are all here to share and learn from one another. Due to the divergent opinions on this topic, it seems to me that again like all things read on the internet if anyone is considering such a modification they may wish to look further into, before committing themselves to it. Especially items that may impact personal safety.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:24 PM   #18
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I wouldn't think twice about it. That's how our floors are held on. That size hole in that size steel is basically insignificant. Since it's on top, it's also in compression, so almost no chance of it breaking at the hole. The HAZ from welding a bracket on coulda be even worse, I don't have the fancy computer programs to play with it.

As an unrelated side note, that's why greasable u-joints have a right and wrong way of installing them, although almost nobody knows that.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:31 PM   #19
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All I can say here is it was not my intention to get anyone angry with me. I prefer open tubing to closed tubing so it will breath. Personally I like chassis built out of channel, like my F-150. Holes are much less of a concern there, and so far, that chassis has been going 12 years, and I intend to keep it going at least 12 more. I love that truck!

All my best to all of you!

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:17 PM   #20
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I like the looks of the new battery box, but it seems to me they really didn't fix the core issue. The real issue is that there is something about the combination of the Optima batteries and the Progressive Dynamics PD-4045 that can cause the batteries to overheat and vent. I am also not sure I like the idea that if the batteries do cook they would now do so next to the propane tanks. I have seen pictures of batteries that have exploded in enclosed RV compartments and they have blown off the door of the compartment (there is a youtube video in which a guy shows the aftermath and at first he thought vandals had pried off the door to steal the battery.) Of course, I don't like the idea of them exploding under my head either (or my feet)!

Maybe this is only an issue for anyone who has let their batteries full discharge, but I don't feel confident that has been fully proven either.
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Aaron mentioned about them not using optimum anymore... mine are less then 2 years old and seem to drain down too quickly
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Looks like a well thought out and visually pleasing solution. Good job PL.
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:30 PM   #23
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Again I am left scratching my head. Not being skilled, schooled nor trained in any of the areas of steel integrity, welding, battery venting I am left pondering what I feel to be valid points. So how'bout Those Eagles? ok sorry just my feeble attempt to bring some levity to the hot topic:-)
Our previous stick build camper had battery on tongue in basic black box that we had fastened with heavy rubber bungee straps. Totally had no idea that batteries can overheat and could explode. So much to think about and consider especially since we put a deposit down on a PL in Sept when we went down to meet with Cameron. Battery box aside... Really am pleased to see the new tire clearance that the new mould provides. Encouraging to see that PL really seems to be hearing the concerns and trying to correct problems or at least provide solutions. Again thank you everyone for sharing what you share. Betty Lou and Bev-2 sisters in del.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:21 AM   #24
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Aaron mentioned about them not using optimum anymore... mine are less then 2 years old and seem to drain down too quickly
He did mention that Deryk, but did not respond to my question about what they switched to. I wonder if they will switch out my blue top Optimas when I visit in May? I also wonder if they'll enlarge my wheel openings like that pic they have on their web site where some dude can get 3 fingers in front of the tire. Gee! I emailed Cameron about that, but have not heard back.

Will have pics soon of my new battery maintainer set up, and a progression of pics on my 30 amp RV/marine inlet project.

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Old 11-06-2013, 07:26 AM   #25
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Again I am left scratching my head. Not being skilled, schooled nor trained in any of the areas of steel integrity, welding, battery venting I am left pondering what I feel to be valid points. So how'bout Those Eagles? ok sorry just my feeble attempt to bring some levity to the hot topic:-)
Our previous stick build camper had battery on tongue in basic black box that we had fastened with heavy rubber bungee straps. Totally had no idea that batteries can overheat and could explode. So much to think about and consider especially since we put a deposit down on a PL in Sept when we went down to meet with Cameron. Battery box aside... Really am pleased to see the new tire clearance that the new mould provides. Encouraging to see that PL really seems to be hearing the concerns and trying to correct problems or at least provide solutions. Again thank you everyone for sharing what you share. Betty Lou and Bev-2 sisters in del.
Eagles are somewhat erratic Betty Lou, but doing good right now!

Hey, our Sunline must have been a cousin to yours! We had a black battery box behind the propane tanks that had a relatively loose bungee cord one would wrap around and hook it to keep it on. I was always amazed we didn't lose the bungee cord and the top to the battery case!

Your new ParkLiner will NOT have Optima batteries Betty Lou, so no worries for you. You will also have great tire clearance. I'm envious already!

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Somehow Frank, Im doubting they are going to modify our wheel well's...Im guessing that would be more then a 1 day job with epoxy curing and re-gel coating. Yeah I wish...cause lets face it in a short few years when our axle starts to sag a bit we are going to have the same problem that Brian and Thom and others are experiencing now.
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I wouldn't mind getting it fixed if they were willing Deryk. We'd stay someplace else while they did it. I was amazed at that pic on ParkLiner's Facebook page with the dude's 3 fingers of space between the tire and wheel well!

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I like the looks of the new battery box, but it seems to me they really didn't fix the core issue. The real issue is that there is something about the combination of the Optima batteries and the Progressive Dynamics PD-4045 that can cause the batteries to overheat and vent. I am also not sure I like the idea that if the batteries do cook they would now do so next to the propane tanks. I have seen pictures of batteries that have exploded in enclosed RV compartments and they have blown off the door of the compartment (there is a youtube video in which a guy shows the aftermath and at first he thought vandals had pried off the door to steal the battery.) Of course, I don't like the idea of them exploding under my head either (or my feet)!

Maybe this is only an issue for anyone who has let their batteries full discharge, but I don't feel confident that has been fully proven either.
At the risk of being told I am "beating a dead horse", even with the "smart dongle" the PD is not a smart charger, and without the smart dongle it is a really dumb charger. Not that others aren't as well, it just happens that the PD is the charger used here. You can't "fix" that issue with a battery box.

IIWM, I would disconnect the PD charge circuit entirely and get an aftermarket smart charger. In fact that is exactly what I have done, so I have already put my money where my mouth is.

When you consider how many thousands we have spent on our TTs, the cost of a smart charger is "in the mud" as we said when analyzing circuit noise.
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