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Old 11-06-2013, 09:49 AM   #29
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John, how did you wire it in? I would consider adding one once I get my new batteries and battery box.

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Old 11-06-2013, 10:04 AM   #30
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John, how did you wire it in? I would consider adding one once I get my new batteries and battery box.

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What "smart charger" are you guys talking about?!?

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Old 11-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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It requires plugging into AC and I haven't "neatened up" my install yet. I had a stainless steel battery box hand built for my Scamp. NO electronics should be in the battery box simply because of the risk of hydrogen gas and explosion.

I simply placed the charger at the front wall under the bunk where the 7 pin cable comes through the wall and into a bundle of connections. I found the wires coming from the PD charger into this bundle and disconnected them. That left me with the wires going through the wall to the batteries, which I just tied into. I had a temperature sensor I also had to deal with so I fed that through the wall and into the battery box as well.
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Frank,
I have been accused of being a "disgruntled PD employee" and similar. I am not. I have discussed what things a charger should do in previous threads and don't want to start all that up all over again. I have no ax to grind, and no company to promote. Third party Smart chargers are common. The following site is one that sells them, but so does Amazon and others.

12 Volt Smart Battery Chargers | 12v Powersports Chargers
You should look for:

1) Multiple phases of charging
2) 14.8 V charge voltage for the bulk charge
3) if you are dealing with an AGM or gell battery make sure the charger allows you to specify the battery type
4) Remote voltage sense
5) Remote temperature sense
6) charge phase switching based on voltage and current curves, NOT a simple "timed" charger.

I will not recommend any specific charger. I will recommend checking the list above against any charger being considered and trying to get as many of those properties as you can in a budget you are willing to pay.
Trickle chargers are not sufficient for your main charger. The battery needs to be charged fairly quickly, and the charger should handle the bulk of your DC needs when plugged in as well as provide additional capacity for charging the battery. IOW if you are plugged in somewhere, and your battery has been discharged by dry camping, you do not want the charger struggling to just keep up with your usage at the RV park, you want to have enough to handle those needs as well as some left over to recharge the battery.

If they cannot be programmed to charge an AGM (sealed) battery and that's what you own, then they will cook your battery because they are trying to charge a "wet cell" which can be charged faster. The charger really does need to sense the voltage AND the current that is applied AT THE BATTERY in order to correctly (SMART) charge the battery. If it isn't doing that then it isn't smart charging, it is just hoping for the best.

We have seen the results of that strategy.
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BTW I should have added that AGM batteries need to charge at 14.4 volts, NOT 14.8V. 14.8 is for wet cell and the AGMs will charge too fast at 14.8V. Which reinforces why the charger needs to be able to differentiate between the two, usually by being told with a switch.
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Rather than rehash here what has been said many times before on this forum about chargers, could we please keep this thread focused in line with the original post, and it is that on the topic of the new battery box that ParkLiner is now offering.

Any further posts off topic will be deleted, and if it becomes enough of a problem, this thread will unfortunately have to be closed.
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Anyone have the dimensions on this new battery box?
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In 2.5 weeks when I get mine installed I will add the measurements and photos...I can't wait to get it done!
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Is it okay to ask about chargers here, or is that off topic and will get the thread closed? I know nothing about these Optima batteries, and for the life of me, can't figure out how to search these forums.

This is the charger I got: NAPA 85300A - NAPA AUTO PARTS

I just brought it upstairs to open and look at the instructions. Pics later, probably on my ParkLiner thread.

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I don't know much about them but I'm getting a feeling that the pd4045 unit puts out too much voltage for the optima batteries.. I might be wrong but Thom switched toa charger that seems to be the right one for optimas
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I would suggest starting a thread specific to smart chargers and ask your questions there.
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I would suggest starting a thread specific to smart chargers and ask your questions there.
Agreed. If people do this it would be fine, but please everyone, use respect for the opinion of others, and do not make it personal. That is all we ask.
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In 2.5 weeks when I get mine installed I will add the measurements and photos...I can't wait to get it done!
Thanks Deryk. That will be appreciated.
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On the ParkLiner Facebook page is pics of the new battery box on the tongue...I'm on my droid so can't upload them.

If all goes according toplan 11/23 I will have mine installed!
Dear Deryk, On a different subject. I have a idea perhaps you would pass along to ParkLiner when you are there. Since there are so many people waiting for their camper to be made (me included!) and since they are so busy making campers to have alot of time communicating with customers, if the owner would give us waiting a number, than just periodically post on their FaceBook page what number trailer they are working on. That way you could get a general idea of how much longer we have to wait to get one of those NIFTY campers!!

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