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07-10-2011, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugermc
I think some time back, Joy A had photos posted of a generator/tank box she made for her 13' scamp. It was made of alum diamond plate and popped rivetted together with a 15" x 39 tray on the bottom. She had some type of vent and a locking hasp on it, it might have been listed on the "scampers" yahoo group page I am not sure,
As a side note, I too was thinking of this tongue box and my smaller 11lb tank is 17 1/2" tall, I picked it up a campers wourld on sale 59.00
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Actually that may still work, there is a ring on your tank bottom to hold it upright, could you not cut a circle hole in the bottom of the box and just let that part of the tank hang out below. It would help to keep it upright and it should make it fit the 16" in height.
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07-10-2011, 05:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Tongue box weight
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Here is mine, from TSC. I did have an aluminum box but it was a little too big and heavy, since I'm adding an extra battery weight I went into weight saving to keep my t/w less than 300#
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I look up your tongue box. Does it really weigh 21 lbs?
Norm
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07-10-2011, 05:25 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp and 1985 13 ft Scamp
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I like this tongue box but I was wondering if this is going to work with my tongue jack, it's welded on the curb side a liitle farther back fromthe original, to enable it to swing up closed for traveling.
In reference to the tongue weight, we have a sport-trac/ford and Adrian was concerned but not much since we downsized the tank and we pretty much decided we would not carry the generator all the time and just have the battery for the12V, also the long hose that we run for the lp tank as we cook outside.
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07-10-2011, 05:28 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
I look up your tongue box. Does it really weigh 21 lbs?
Norm
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It does not weigh a lot. I had the aluminum tongue box TSC sells but it weighed about 10 lbs more. I just checked, it costs $249 and weighs 30#. But the problem with the metal box is the issue of batteries and possible shorting out. My battery boxes have exposed terminals. This issue does not exist with the plastic one. I sold it for $100 and bought the plastic one, an expensive lesson learned.
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07-10-2011, 05:30 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sugermc
I like this tongue box but I was wondering if this is going to work with my tongue jack, it's welded on the curb side a liitle farther back fromthe original, to enable it to swing up closed for traveling.
In reference to the tongue weight, we have a sport-trac/ford and Adrian was concerned but not much since we downsized the tank and we pretty much decided we would not carry the generator all the time and just have the battery for the12V, also the long hose that we run for the lp tank as we cook outside.
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If I'm not mistaken, the swing up jack can swing down and the wheel raises up and it can be turned sideways to miss the box.
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07-10-2011, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Andrew
Trailer: Modified Trillium Jubilee
Ontario
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
It does not weigh a lot. I had the aluminum tongue box TSC sells but it weighed about 10 lbs more. I just checked, it costs $249 and weighs 30#. But the problem with the metal box is the issue of batteries and possible shorting out. My battery boxes have exposed terminals. This issue does not exist with the plastic one. I sold it for $100 and bought the plastic one, an expensive lesson learned.
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At least, I'm happy to know that with mine I'm not paying much of the weight penalty - it's only about 3 pounds heavier than the (smaller) plastic one. I lined mine with foam so, not an issue with a battery if I ever put one in there. I actually lined it so jacks / wheel chocks / wrenches would not be banging around.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sugermc
I like this tongue box but I was wondering if this is going to work with my tongue jack, it's welded on the curb side a liitle farther back fromthe original, to enable it to swing up closed for traveling.
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Tapered tongue boxes should be perfectly fine with your jack being swung up for travel. I raise mine just enough t get it off the ground and than swing up - for one thing, the wheel portion doesn't go above the top level of the frame and even if it didn't, it still misses the side of it so I could swing it 360 if I wanted to. The issue may be; if the front of the box is too close to the lowered jack, it could impede easy operation of the jack crank handle.
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07-11-2011, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp and 1985 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 158
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well today I went to the tractor supply and looked at the black tongue box, the thing just looks big , its black and the scamp is white, painting it? Nah I am only going to have the battery (1) and the smaller lp tank (11lb, 17 1/2" tall say 10" dia)., and the long supply hose to the 2 burner stove. Then looked at the alum diamond deal, 249.00 and its taller and seems over kill , then looked at a 18 x 18 x 24 alum tool box, good size but, well the lid had a angle iron welded in the center, preventing the lp tank from sitting in it,
never thought about the handle on the jack, guess have to check that out, thanks
Still going back to building some thing like Joy A's, wonder what that thing cost to build? would I have 250. and my time into it?
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07-11-2011, 08:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Andrew
Trailer: Modified Trillium Jubilee
Ontario
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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This one is 17" high and (I think) that's on the outside so, a standard 20# tank will not fit. 10# should.
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07-11-2011, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
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Andrew,
The detailed description at the bottom of the link you quoted states: 18" high.
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07-12-2011, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Andrew
Trailer: Modified Trillium Jubilee
Ontario
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy in TO
Andrew,
The detailed description at the bottom of the link you quoted states: 18" high.
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Quote directly from the link:
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Measure your trailer before purchasing. Toolbox measures 36" wide across back, 18" wide across front, 19" deep and 17" high. Weighs 13 lbs. 7 cu ft capacity.
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So, it's 18" wide (at front) but, not that high and these are outside dimensions. Than again, other than the colour, I think that it is a virtual copy of the one from TSC so, the smaller tanks should fit.
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07-13-2011, 11:49 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,137
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Andrew,
If I get the time before bolerama, I'll try to see if a 20# tank will fit into mine. It looks very similar and I got it from Princess Auto. Made by "Buyers" if I recall.
Or if you are ever in the 400/401 area, you can pop by and see mine. I would not mind meeting you to talk about photography, GPS's and wiring harnesses.
Roy
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07-15-2011, 04:29 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2001 13 ft Scamp / 1993 Jeep Cherokee
Posts: 1,294
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Joy A. here....
I couldn't find a pre-made tongue box that was tall enough for a standard 20lb/5 gallon propane tank, also the tongue on a 13 footer is shorter than the 16/17 footers. I contemplated going with a smaller shorter tank but then I thought about dry camping in the cold climates. I'd be using the propane for not just the stove and fridge but also the furnace.
My generator/propane box is roughly 39 inches wide in the back and 31 inches wide in the front by 15 inches deep. It's roughly 21 inches high to accomodate a standard 20lb/5 gallon propane tank. The box on the side is removable and is an exhaust diverter. Oh, and I lined the generator box and divertor with that window bubble wrap sun shade. Used 3M spray on glue to adhere it.
I can't seem to locate the sales tag for the diamond plate I used and the tray that the welder fabricated for me. But as I recall it was in excess of $300 closer to $400. Aluminum diamond plate is very pricey.
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07-17-2011, 04:29 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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I wonder what your t/w is now?
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07-19-2011, 02:37 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2001 13 ft Scamp / 1993 Jeep Cherokee
Posts: 1,294
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Heavy but OK. I had it weighed at the Oregon gathering 2 years ago. I'm just within the weight ratio for the tongue.
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