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Old 04-15-2019, 12:46 AM   #15
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there's the princess scale, but its not easy to find,
https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...le/A-p8686024e

they won't ship to the USA

there's this similar one made in .AU, but I haven't foudn anyone who willl ship it, either.
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(note $75 AU is about $55 US).
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:30 AM   #16
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Thanks! I tried it but our scale maxes out at 330lbs, so it wouldn't work.
Had the same problem as my TW is around 365# so I bought a new scale on Ebay rated for 400# for a whole $20 .
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Thanks! I tried it but our scale maxes out at 330lbs, so it wouldn't work.

You can multiply the effective capacity of your scale by using using a cross bar (2x4 or similar) with scale at one end, support block at the other and tongue at measured distance somewhere midway depending on what ratio you need. Resting the bar on short bits of pipe assures that you are approximating point loads for accuracy. Here is a diagram of a typical scheme.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:10 AM   #18
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there's the princess scale, but its not easy to find,
https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...le/A-p8686024e

they won't ship to the USA

there's this similar one made in .AU, but I haven't foudn anyone who willl ship it, either.
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(note $75 AU is about $55 US).
In August 2018 they shipped 2 to me in Michigan, no issues.
They are a pretty good alternative to the Sherline
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:05 AM   #19
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phew, that sounds heavy. have you weighed it? those rear bumper hitches usually have a 100 lb limit.
It's not too bad, I was able to lift it into place by myself, it was more awkward than anything. No I haven't actually weighed it, but with the BBQ, stove, suitcase generator, 5lb propane tank, axe and fire pit my guess is about 150lbs. My bumper hitch is rated for 200, but I've purchased 2 more to add to the setup so more load is placed near the bumper welds and not the center of the bumper.
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Had the same problem as my TW is around 365# so I bought a new scale on Ebay rated for 400# for a whole $20 .
Hmm! I'll have a look! Up here in Canada things tend to be more expensive!
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:07 AM   #21
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You can multiply the effective capacity of your scale by using using a cross bar (2x4 or similar) with scale at one end, support block at the other and tongue at measured distance somewhere midway depending on what ratio you need. Resting the bar on short bits of pipe assures that you are approximating point loads for accuracy. Here is a diagram of a typical scheme.
I found something similar online, thanks for the info!
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:36 PM   #22
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I did something similar but with an aluminum cargo carrier and a molded plastic box in which I carried about 60 to 70 lbs. So the whole thing weighted about 110 lbs total. I have a hitch from Orbital Machine Works, and it was installed by Little House Customs in TX. I normally drive but one time my wife towed it a short distance while I was messing around the primitive campsite. It was a rough road and I noticed she hit a sort of pothole a bit too fast, as in about 5mph. That darn cargo box whipped up and down like you would not believe. I almost took it off and left it at the campground. Instead we went home and it has been sitting in my barn ever since. No way will I haul anything over about 30 lbs, if that.

I cannot image having that thing whipping up and down as we drive about 10,000 miles, give or take, during our normal camping season. I don't think the trailer frame can handle that sort of action.

Hopefully you will have a better experience that I have.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:37 PM   #23
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I built a bumper mounted, fibreglass coated storage box/outdoor kitchen for the back of my Bigfoot. The box is 1/2" plywood covered in 3 layers of polyester resin and chopped strand, gelcoat and then marine enamel. The whole thing fits in a hitch cargo carrier that's mounted to the bumper. Now I don't have to haul my BBQ in the box of my truck or inside my trailer. Also fits my generator, firewood and propane firepit nicely, or firewood during burning season.
:just remember on cannot transfer firewood across the border.
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That darn cargo box whipped up and down like you would not believe. I almost took it off and left it at the campground. Instead we went home and it has been sitting in my barn ever since. No way will I haul anything over about 30 lbs, if that.
An anti-rattle hitch lock should take care of that problem.
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:just remember on cannot transfer firewood across the border.
Not a problem there, I have no intentions on crossing the border, or even leaving the island for that matter, anytime in the foreseeable future.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:28 PM   #26
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For all those who were interested in the weight distribution effects of this box, I found out some info at the local trucking scale this evening.

For one, the box (loaded) weighs more than twice as much as I had estimated. It's a whopping 150KG (330 lbs). Whoa.

What does this do to the overall trailer weight? With the box the trailer weighs in at 1640KG (3600lbs) without it 1490KG (3300lbs) so the trailer alone is pushing it's max axle weight with no water in the tanks and no clothing or food on board without the box. With the box I am slightly over.

Tongue weight was interesting too. With the box I have a tongue weight that ranged by 40KG (88lbs) depending if the weight distribution hitch was connected or not. The weight distribution hitch actually made the trailer weigh more by that margin. With the box my tongue weight is 140kg (308lbs) and without the box it was 220KG (484lbs)

Either way the tongue weight is within the 9-15% threshold, but just barely. With the box I'm at the bottom (9%) and without it I'm at the top (15%). Again, this is with no water in the tanks, which adds another 200lbs just in front of the axle, which would increase the tongue weight marginally. But the axle weight with food, water and gear on board is overloaded by about 500lbs , unless we're accounting for the tongue weight transfer, which would make it damned close to the 3500lb rating.

Either way it was an interesting experiment, and I learned lots about my trailer set up. I'll be beefing up my box supports before we go travelling again. And I'll be loading my gear in the front of the trailer.
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Congrats for gathering the data. Most would carry on in ignorance.
But, one more question. What is the max tongue weight of your tow vehicle?
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:55 AM   #28
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Hi Glenn,

Looks like my max payload is 1510 lbs, with a max towing capacity of 7800lbs. So it's well within those limits.
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