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Old 05-30-2017, 06:13 PM   #1
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Over-optimistic beginner vs Trillium 1300

Hi everyone,

I recently bought a Trillium 1300. I have started a few threads with questions and I now realize I should do like others and make a little thread about how it's going and the challenges I face along the way.

Se here are the pictures of when I bought the beauty, is still haven't found a name yet.
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:25 PM   #2
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Where i am now

So after posting a few question about preparing the exterior and how to deal with cracks in the fiberglass, I sanded the whole thing with a dual action sander (went very well), did some fiberglass on the roof (way easier than I first expected) and took front and back window out since the back one was leaking and didn't want to take any chance with the front one.

So here are the picture of where I am on my project for the moment
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:44 PM   #3
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And now the challenges

Here are the challenges I currently face. Pictures follow the order of the question/challenges

1- How the hell you get the cooker top off? I don't want to damage it but I would like to take it off to give a good cleaning under it.

2- There is a joint between the upper part and lower part of the shell. There was some kind of mastic on the top of the joint which came off in some parts? what should I use for this joint?

3- There are also cracks on the side of the window hole. It is not fiberglass, it looks like body filler for cars. How should I Fix it?

4- The previous owner (don't ask me how) made some kind of a whole on the side trim close to the door. I was thinking about filling it with some plastic metal, is it the right way to go?

4- (no pictures) What is the best watertight product to reinstall a window?

thank you all for you suggestion a following my thread
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:44 PM   #4
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Keep up the good work and keep adding the pictures. Your story will help others.
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Old 05-30-2017, 07:46 PM   #5
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I just used Sikaflex 295UV for the installation of new plexiglass windows on my 1997 Suntrek Vista. Very happy with the results.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:09 PM   #6
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Question 2

It appears someone tried to fix a leaky belly band by adding something that looks like an epoxy fillet. so the stuff that is chunking off is an addition.

Easy fix as you might have noticed the rubber in the centre of the belly band peals out. I see yours has shrunk to reveal some rivets. so peal it out to revel the rivets. Drill out the rivets and take off the metal band. Then sand off your excess fillet you have in your case and grind out the metal bits the rivets attached to. then fill with some sort of epoxy filler. I used the 3m stuff from Canadian Tire.

and presto fixed! Like the fibreglass work it sounds harder than it is.

Check out a much better explanation at this thread here Belly Band removal Trillium
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It appears someone tried to fix a leaky belly band by adding something that looks like an epoxy fillet. so the stuff that is chunking off is an addition.
That's not a deteriorated rubber insert in an aluminum bumper on that belly band? Looks like it in the pictures, but then I'm not a Trillium owner.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:29 AM   #8
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David Tilston, no longer active on the forum, has some great threads on Trillium repairs.

Do an advanced search by user, and you will find them.

Some good examples:

My first Trillium window thread.

My First Belly Band Thread


Randy Bishop has also done some awesome Trillium rebuild work. I almost bought a rig from Randy, I should of really!
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Old 05-31-2017, 11:50 AM   #9
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Hi,
Question 1. The top is anchored on each side by "pressure" type pins. One on either side. The back of the top is raised so you can get the tines of a hammer underneath. Or you can get a flat edge under it in the middle of the side and pry steadily upward it should pop off. Remove the knobs and the lose metal burner parts before you start.
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Old 05-31-2017, 03:45 PM   #10
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Some tips from my experience

The stove top on my '76 tril just pops right off. I just grasp evenly around the metal opening for the burners (grills removed) and give a quick pull.

There are plenty of posts here on repairing leaky windows. You have step one, remove them. I suggest before you do anything else, check to see if the screws were grabbing the fibreglass all the way 'round. My opening had been cut a little too wide at manufacture and so was never properly sandwiched between the aluminum window and the wood. I built both sides in about 1/4 inch with fiberglass and then repaired the rest of the way around the window with a thin layer of fiberglass to give a smooth surface. The old wood on the inside will be rotten. I duplicated this using good quality 3/4 inch plywood. Marine grade is too expensive and besides, it loses its qualities when you cut it. I sealed the new pieces with three coats of urethane. I put butyl tape next to the opening, under the metal. I used 3/4 inch stainless #8 screws which pass through the aluminum window, through the fiberglass and into the wood, sandwiching everything for a water tight fit. Once you clean up the excess butyl, top off the joint with some high end RV silicone and replace trim. Done!

I probably don't have to tell you this, but be careful working with fibreglass. Get an appropriate chemical respirator when working with resin and fit it with P100 filters when sanding. I didn't always do this, but then as they say, if I'd known I'd live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself!
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"3- There are also cracks on the side of the window hole. It is not fiberglass, it looks like body filler for cars. How should I Fix it?"
If it is bondo style body filler you could grind it out with a small dremel style grinder if it needs to be removed. Grind down to the fiberglass and then re-glass the area. Alternatively, you could add more body filler and sand it smooth.

"4- The previous owner (don't ask me how) made some kind of a whole on the side trim close to the door. I was thinking about filling it with some plastic metal, is it the right way to go? "
I would use fiberglass. If it's too small to patch then I would recommend buying or making a shortstrand putty and using it to patch a small hole.

"4- (no pictures) What is the best watertight product to reinstall a window? "
I used Butyl tape (the black style) when I reinstalled my windows. I am pretty happy with the results.

Good luck!
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your off to a great start. FYI bondo is not waterproof if you use it make sure you put lots of primer on to seal it up. Dyna Glass,Long and Strong, other names for it as well is waterproof, but a bit harder to sand. Crappy Tire carries it
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David Tilston, no longer active on the forum, has some great threads on Trillium repairs.

Do an advanced search by user, and you will find them.

Some good examples:

My first Trillium window thread.

My First Belly Band Thread


Randy Bishop has also done some awesome Trillium rebuild work. I almost bought a rig from Randy, I should of really!
Aw shucks, that is nice of you to say.

A couple of observations about this trailer.
I have never seen that stye of side window on a Trillium before. I doubt that they are original.
The exterior light seems to have been replaced by something.
Given the massive amount of paint that needs to be removed, I would pull the belly band off and fill the gap. In addition to the above links, please also take a look at this one:
My Second Belly Band Thread

It is probably not necessary to grind as much as I did, (though I would do it all again). The seam is structurally sound, just fill it with some Bondo Short Strand Fibreglass Filler, sand flat, and cover with a thin layer of Bondo Body Filler, sand flat again. Then paint to taste.

And BTW Randy's advise is way better then mine. That man is a Trillium savant.
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Welcome back Dave . There sure has been a lot of Trill questions you've missed giving sage advice on.
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Yup.. Good to once again see your sagely advice on the screen , Dave..
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:02 PM   #16
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Hi guys,

Thanks for all the help

I think I have my answers for the stove and the product for the windows.

However, I am unsure about the Belly Band thing. I kinda liked to have it cause it was giving me a well-defined line to make a neat two color painting job despite my poor painting skills.

I am not against taking it out. I am only wondering how could I get some kind of defined line to help me with the painting.

David Tilston - No the side windows aren't originals... I am really disappointed by it. They are not it great shape neither. I am looking to replace them with originals or new ones but have a hard time finding ones.
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