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07-09-2014, 08:53 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
Posts: 2,273
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ParkLiner - leveling jacks to replace stabilizers?
Have any of you ParkLiner owners installed leveling jacks to replace the stabilizers in the back? I have a pair of these left over from the last trailer rebuild, and was thinking of installing them.
My basic concern is that they're heavy and I would be using four stainless self drill screws per side. The screws I would use are size 14 X 1-1/2". I would NOT want the jacks coming off as we drove down the road!
I'm pretty sure the relatively lightweight stabilizers on 006 now are held on by two self drill screws.
What do you think?
Frank
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2013 4wd 4 door F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 9200# tow package
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07-09-2014, 09:01 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Over kill….
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07-09-2014, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
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I had them on our Sunline Sunspot, even smaller and lighter than the ParkLiner. Thing is you can't find lighter ones in this style.
Frank
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2012 ParkLiner #006
2013 4wd 4 door F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 9200# tow package
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07-09-2014, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Frank, those appear to be more like scissors jacks, do you not want stabilizers?
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07-09-2014, 09:08 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
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What good are stabilizers? I want to level the trailer when I'm parked. I don't understand what good stabilizers are for leveling a trailer. Never had stabilizers before, always scissor jacks. It's what I see on most other trailer when we camp.
Frank
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2013 4wd 4 door F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 9200# tow package
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07-09-2014, 09:12 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Most trailer frames are not meant to be jacked except only at certain locations, normally close to the axles. Stabilizers secure your trailer from movement. Your tongue jack is used to raise and lower the trailer, to level it. it is designed for that purpose. Jacking up a light trailer at each corner could cause some major frame flexing and possible fiberglass cracking, it is better to only jack from the front.
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07-09-2014, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
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Pennsylvania
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There is also the B@l tire leveler, works great on single axles units.
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07-09-2014, 09:16 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
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That doesn't deal with side-to-side leveling though, which was our problem at the last campground. So should I get bottle jacks for that and jack at the axles? Then I have to store the jacks. The scissor jacks only work well when attached to the frame.
Thanks,
Frank
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2013 4wd 4 door F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 9200# tow package
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07-09-2014, 09:21 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Again, side to side leveling should be done at the axle with leveling blocks or the B@l leveler, jacking the frame at the end points on one side only may cause frame issues. YMMV
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07-09-2014, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frank_a
What good are stabilizers? I want to level the trailer when I'm parked. I don't understand what good stabilizers are for leveling a trailer. Never had stabilizers before, always scissor jacks. It's what I see on most other trailer when we camp.
Frank
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I have read in other threads that the lightweight frames on the eggs aren't strong enough to lift the whole trailer from a single point (or even 4 points). Since you would have to raise one corner at a time, I suspect the twisting could damage the frame. Stabilizers are just that - they keep the trailer from shaking after it has been leveled using leveling blocks under the wheels. Most of the weight remains on the suspension and stresses are distributed evenly throughout the whole frame.
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07-09-2014, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinScamps
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Do you use their tire chock with it?
Thanks,
Frank
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07-09-2014, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
Name: kevin
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Colorado
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Tire chock
no idea what their tire chock is, so I guess not. The jack chocks the tire front and back so it is not going to roll anywhere. I will chock the other tire if I am on a particularly slanting site, otherwise not necessary. In theory on a hard surface it could slide I suppose, but it has a lot of weight on it, so it would take a LOT of effort to do so... maybe if you were camping on a frozen lake.... but then a chock wouldn't do much either
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07-09-2014, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Frank
Trailer: 2012 ParkLiner #006
New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinScamps
no idea what their tire chock is, so I guess not. The jack chocks the tire front and back so it is not going to roll anywhere. I will chock the other tire if I am on a particularly slanting site, otherwise not necessary. In theory on a hard surface it could slide I suppose, but it has a lot of weight on it, so it would take a LOT of effort to do so... maybe if you were camping on a frozen lake.... but then a chock wouldn't do much either
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The chock come up under "Frequently bought together" when I went to that Amazon link. Thanks, we'll have to get one of those. Great idea!
fRANK
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07-09-2014, 11:27 AM
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Senior Member
Name: kevin
Trailer: 13' Scamp
Colorado
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no chock
Quote:
Originally Posted by frank_a
Do you use their tire chock with it?
Thanks,
Frank
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I just checked amazon to see what your were talking about. No their chock is total over kill. I use a cheap plastic chock if I use one at all.
Amazon.com: Camco 44412 Wheel Chock - Single: Sports & Outdoors
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07-09-2014, 12:27 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
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I agree with Jim & Jon about not leveling with the stabilizers. I either use boards under a wheel, or if a dirt site I'll dig a little depression for a wheel with my little folding shovel. This idea applies to cars too, don't jack them up at the front and rear and open a door. A co-worker had that happen years ago with a 2 door hardtop dodge, all 4 wheels off the ground on big air bumper jacks to rotate the tires and someone opened a door. He said the door never shut right afterwards.
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07-09-2014, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
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These Parkliners seem to need an awful lot of repairs and modifications for a trailer that has only been in production for a short time. Next camper I buy is going to be one I can just use and not work on, tired of that deal.
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07-09-2014, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1973 Compact Jr and 1980 Bigfoot 17 ft
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I use both the BAL leveler and chock. I didn't have to buy them. My son gave them to me when he sold his popup. They both work very well.
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07-09-2014, 03:11 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Front to back leveling is obviously easy and so is side to side.
Ginny looks to see which side needs to go up and puts a 2x6 with a beveled edge under one wheel. Usually that's close enough.
She then adjusts front to back and I put the stabilizers down.
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2014 Honda Odyssey
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07-09-2014, 03:30 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Brian
Trailer: 2013 ParkLiner
Upstate New York
Posts: 370
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Frank,
I've got one of the BAL levelers and use an 18V impact driver with a 3/4 socket to run it up and down. It rides in a 22" pizza delivery bag when not in use to keep grease from the the screw off the rest of the camping gear. I think I found the pizza bag on Ebay.
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