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Old 10-21-2011, 03:51 PM   #197
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As long as the wire is 30 amp then you should be fine, is it waterproof while opened?
It is a 30 amp cord. It's water tight except for the prongs and socket; their is no sealin O-ring. No water seems to get in around the cover though honestly I installed it two years ago and don't quite remember how I sealed it to the trailer(forgetful... only 1 more year to 70).

I assume the marine plugs are water tight. I will say it's more water tight than the one that comes on the Scamp. The cover does act like a little umbrella.

I'll let you know what I did when I take it apart.
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Old 10-22-2011, 12:34 AM   #198
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I just read all 15 pages Some of the mods you have done are similar to mine, like the trable . I cut down the factory table but my plan was to build a nicer table top from scratch. I use a lot of those plastic trays and bins too

You have made wonderful use of the storage space! I've done some of those things too, but not to the same extent. It's pretty frustrating to see so much wasted space in these trailers where space is at such a premium.

I built a new larger kitchen drawer on full length slides. The one from Scamp was junk. It swelled up in those aluminum slides and the whole front came off in my hand when I tried to open it.

Lots of great ideas and clean work on your trailer!
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:58 AM   #199
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David,

I didn't extend my kitchen utensil drawer but I did get rid of those aluminum channels, they drove me crazy.

I have to believe that there's a market for a Scamp specifically designed for 1-2 people. I can't imagine why it doesn't exist.
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:24 AM   #200
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I have to believe that there's a market for a Scamp specifically designed for 1-2 people. I can't imagine why it doesn't exist.
I agree, so why don't they offer such a layout? It seems like the selling point is the number of people it will sleep. In the process, efficient storage, comfort and ergonomics go out the door. Even on my new custom I couldn't avoid all that waste. I had a pile of stuff in the dumpster out of my new trailer before I spent a night in it. Things like the top bunk in the front didn't work for me so out it all went. As you have so skillfully demonstrated, there is a ton of room in a 16' if you just find ways to use it efficiently. As I said in another thread, if I were to do this again I would order the trailer mostly gutted and just build from there. It's much easier than trying to work around all the built in limitations. Actually, If I could get a 13 with a heavy duty axle I could make that space work just fine. I will say that Scamp is more willing to do custom things than some, and their parts are very resonably priced.
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:39 PM   #201
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I have to believe that there's a market for a Scamp specifically designed for 1-2 people. I can't imagine why it doesn't exist.
But, what would that perfect layout be? It's doubtful you'd find all the 1-2 people who would agree 100% to the layout. Some want big beds, others want twin beds, others big bathrooms, some no bathrooms, etc., etc., etc. The only perfect layout is the one that works perfectly for the owner....
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:01 PM   #202
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Perfect

The only perfect layout is the one that works perfectly for the owner....

I agree there's probably no perfect, though Ginny comes close.

Maybe we could agree that there are other layout solutions not offered that could provide a trailer more suited to many if not all owners needs.

When we bought our Bounder the dinettes were similar to the Scamp's, foolishly difficult to access. Fortunately the Bounder people listened to their owners and eventually provided drawer access to the space. ( I give Bounder credit for supporting the Bounder club, attending rallys and listening to owners.)

From the modifications I've done I think that most people would like a handier use of all the dead space, even if it was a 'pay for option'. I would have paid an additional $500 for 6 drawers I've added.

I believe there are additional trailer layouts that could expand the sales of Scamps and Casitas, really fraternal twins. It seems their has been little advancement in layout creativity by either company.

I'm not complaining, I just think there's missed opportunity for both companies.

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Old 10-22-2011, 09:31 PM   #203
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I didn't extend my kitchen utensil drawer but I did get rid of those aluminum channels, they drove me crazy.

I have to believe that there's a market for a Scamp specifically designed for 1-2 people. I can't imagine why it doesn't exist.
Clearly, at least to me, Scamp could use better use of the storage space. Anything that is a nose bleed to get to might as well not be there. Aside from that it would be nice to have more layout options or perhaps options from a pull down menu. When I bought my Scamp there were no options designed for a single person. One of the benches by the table is now converted soley to storage, because ...well, I can't sit on both sides at once . For me it would be nice to have a really comfortable chair and a smaller table. I love to read in the evenings and there is no place I can sit for long because it's just not comfortable.

Anyway, we are just wishing at the moon you know. The sky is the limit

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Old 10-25-2011, 08:23 PM   #204
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Small Table

For me it would be nice to have a really comfortable chair and a smaller table. I love to read in the evenings and there is no place I can sit for long because it's just not comfortable.

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We have a small table. Ours is 24x30". It has to be one of the easiest mods and really opens up the trailer and removes a lot of OSB.
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:46 AM   #205
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I love that table! What wood is that? Cedar? I cut about a foot off my factory table and refinished the edge, but a new wood table would be sweet. I wish I had a planer/joiner

You are so right that shortening the table makes the room bigger. Access to the rear cabinet storage is so much easier. It's also easier to sit down and get up.

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Old 10-26-2011, 07:50 AM   #206
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I love that table! What wood is that? Cedar? I cut about a foot off my factory table and refinished the edge, but a new wood table would be sweet. I wish I had a planer/joiner

You are so right that shortening the table makes the room bigger. Access to the rear cabinet storage is so much easier. It's also easier to sit down and get up.

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Easy Table.

I went to Home Depot and bought a 2'x3'x0.6" built up board of glued pine boards and cut it to 30" I stained it and then urethaned it a couple of coats and gave it a light sanding to knock down the 'bumps'.

To get a nice thick coat of urethane on the top I put the table top on a level surface. I put a piece of blue painters tape around all edges so the tape was above the top surface about a 1/4 inch and than simply poured urethane on the top surfaces. I used fast drying gloss urethane.

Mounted the old hardware and one has a table.

I made it 30" wide so it could still bridge the dinette seats. As well if you look at the Preparing thread you'll see my top surface is attached to another virtually identical table piece with hinges that lets me bridge the whole dinette length so we can make up our bed. The hinged half table is much easier to set up than the OSB table.

We have had a table like this in our previous trailer and it worked there as well. For that table top we used an Oak stair tread, cutting it in half and gluing the two halfs together. The pine version is lighter, thinner and less expensive.

The shortened table is much simpler, even when having another couple over, the whole sliding in thing disappears. If I were clever I would have designed this so when it unfolded it could create a full table when up.

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Old 10-26-2011, 10:39 AM   #207
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The pre-made board idea is perfect. I wish I had a Home Depot near. The closest such place is an all day round trip. Maybe I can mail order it. The top looks like glass. Thanks for the tape tip. They make a "pouring urethane" too, but I've never used it.
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The pre-made board idea is perfect. I wish I had a Home Depot near. The closest such place is an all day round trip. Maybe I can mail order it. The top looks like glass. Thanks for the tape tip. They make a "pouring urethane" too, but I've never used it.
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Lowes sells it as well and so do many lumber yards.
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Old 11-21-2011, 03:39 PM   #209
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Tyre Dog Tire Pressure Monitoring System

We now have 800 miles on our Tire Pressure Monitoring System and have learned a couple of things.

The sensors are on the Scamp's tires and our Honda CRV's rear tires.

The Scamps tires were set to 46 pounds )max rating is 50 lbs cold) and the Honda's tires were set to 39 pounds (max rating is 44 lbs cold),
I used a traditional old fashioned tire gauge to set them.

When running the trailer's tire pressure seems to jump to 51-52 pounds when running and the Honda's to 42-43.

The sensors also measure air temperature within the tires. Though it may not be truely accurate, changes and relative temperature are probably relevant. It interests me that the Honda's rear tire temperatures are typically 5-10 degrees higher than the trailer's tire temperatures.

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We now have 800 miles on our Tire Pressure Monitoring System and have learned a couple of things.

The sensors are on the Scamp's tires and our Honda CRV's rear tires.

The Scamps tires were set to 46 pounds )max rating is 50 lbs cold) and the Honda's tires were set to 39 pounds (max rating is 44 lbs cold),
I used a traditional old fashioned tire gauge to set them.

When running the trailer's tire pressure seems to jump to 51-52 pounds when running and the Honda's to 42-43.

The sensors also measure air temperature within the tires. Though it may not be truely accurate, changes and relative temperature are probably relevant. It interests me that the Honda's rear tire temperatures are typically 5-10 degrees higher than the trailer's tire temperatures.

Still learning....
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Perhaps the trailer sensors are cooling at a faster rate? Do the numbers change much when you stop? Are the starting temps comparable? Those things might give an indication. It's also completely believable that differences will occur . The sensors in my tires don't give an actual pressure or temperature unfortunately. They only alarm when one drops below the others.
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