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Old 11-28-2014, 01:06 AM   #15
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Betsey's Battery project

1973 13' Boler new to me. Previous owner put a shelf off the back that holds a plastic box, similar to what you might put on your deck, and the spare. It counters the weight of the front (2 propane tanks) and this is where I plan on putting the battery box. Leave very little weight on the tongue and easy to move around. Makes it a pleasure to drive, but also gives lots of storage space.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:35 AM   #16
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Jim, you will need to have at least 10% of your loaded trailer weight, on the tongue, or you will experience trailer sway or "the tail wagging the dog" syndrome.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:36 AM   #17
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It counters the weight of the front (2 propane tanks) and this is where I plan on putting the battery box. Leave very little weight on the tongue and easy to move around. Makes it a pleasure to drive, but also gives lots of storage space.

You will find that putting to much weight at the rear extreme of the trailer is not a good thing. You really do not want to "leave very little weight on the tongue" as you suggest as that will result in a very unstable tow with lots of sway - not fun! For a safe stable tow you really need to have at least 10% of the axle weight on the tongue.
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:08 PM   #18
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It doesn't take such a huge amount off the tongue, but appreciate the comments. I'll do some checking on the weight, and this is one reason to put the battery box in the front. The box in the back really only carries the awning, chocks, small bucket, ropes, etc. so not a lot of weight there. But I'll certainly check! Thanks for the input. Jim
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:57 PM   #19
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Rather than going to the trouble of a sealed and vented battery box, get yourself a Optima battery Car, Marine, & RV Batteries | OPTIMABATTERIES they are totally sealed and have no venting. You can even mount these batteries upside down if you want.

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Old 11-29-2014, 05:55 PM   #20
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Sealed Battery

The website doesn't mention any dealers, etc. in Canada. Any thoughts there? I do like this idea if it's feasible. Makes the wiring so much easier and could still put it in the front under the bench.
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Rather than going to the trouble of a sealed and vented battery box, get yourself a Optima battery Car, Marine, & RV Batteries | OPTIMABATTERIES they are totally sealed and have no venting. You can even mount these batteries upside down if you want.

Actually one should read the fine print on installation of the Optima Battery carefully .... as some owners here found out the hard way the no venting is not actually correct
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The website doesn't mention any dealers, etc. in Canada. Any thoughts there? I do like this idea if it's feasible. Makes the wiring so much easier and could still put it in the front under the bench.
Jim 73 Boler from Grand Prairie

I would try some specialty auto shops (speed shop).

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Old 11-29-2014, 10:31 PM   #23
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I've had a few people here warn about 'sealed' batteries and advised to shy away from them. Speed shops, etc. are pretty rare this far north maybe on a trip to the south I can ask around. It's a long winter....

Remember, we consider Winnipeg to be down in the Banana Belt...
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In a failure "event", such as massive over charging or short circuit, a Optima battery can "vent". This would constitute a catastrophic failure and the likelyhood of this happening is unlikely under "normal" use. I have used a Optima battery in my basement workshop for over 5 years. I use it to power all of my 12V projects and charge it several times per month. It has never vented anything and there is no corrosive gasses or corrosion evident on any of the wires or stuff adjacent to it. For several months, I had it laid on it's side while using it for another project... no leaks or other issues.

I am sure if you consistently do something stupid, you could cause a problem, but you would have to try hard. Under real-world use in a Camper you will be fine.

Try a off-road 4X4 truck shop. They could have what you need. The Optima is also promoted as shock proof and is often seen in off-road trucks. There are bound to be a couple of off-road 4X4er in the Yukon!!

And, yea, I did pickup some bananas today (at the Safeway).
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In a failure "event", such as massive over charging or short circuit, a Optima battery can "vent". This would constitute a catastrophic failure and the likelyhood of this happening is unlikely under "normal" use. I have used a Optima battery in my basement workshop for over 5 years. I use it to power all of my 12V projects and charge it several times per month. It has never vented anything and there is no corrosive gasses or corrosion evident on any of the wires or stuff adjacent to it. For several months, I had it laid on it's side while using it for another project... no leaks or other issues.

I am sure if you consistently do something stupid, you could cause a problem, but you would have to try hard. Under real-world use in a Camper you will be fine.

Try a off-road 4X4 truck shop. They could have what you need. The Optima is also promoted as shock proof and is often seen in off-road trucks. There are bound to be a couple of off-road 4X4er in the Yukon!!

And, yea, I did pickup some bananas today (at the Safeway).
There's more than one type of Optima battery. Some have vents.
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I would recommend a Optima D34/78, P/N 8014-045
This battery is 10.018" Long, 6.886" Wide, 7.841" High and Weighs 43.5 lbs.

This is a 870 amp battery (MCA (BCI 32 Deg F))

The Optima data indicates that this is a sealed, leak prook battery, but it does have "safety valves" that will open and allow battery gases to escape if the battery is overcharged. These safety valves are normally closed and only open if there is excessive pressure inside the battery. This is a safety feature to prevent the battery from rupturing in the event of a catastrophic condition like excessive overcharging or internal short circuit of the battery. Under normal use and operating conditions, the safety valves are closed and no venting of the battery occures.
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Walmart and Canadian Tire sell Optima Batteries.
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JKMBoler,
i have seen batteries expand in cold weather
would it vent in cold conditions?
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