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Old 12-02-2015, 01:23 PM   #1
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Relocating Shower Pump on Scamp 16

Greetings.... has anyone relocated the shower pump to a more protected spot...like up near the channel framing? is there a reason this should not be done?
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:26 PM   #2
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The pump is often located in the center section of the front below the shower pan. This is a much greater problem with the 13 than it is with the 16, due to ground clearance.
I have relocated a few of them by simply moving the pump over to the raised section on the road side under the toilet. All you really need is a short length of Tygon tubing.
The drain (or drains if you have the sink) is simply rerouted toward the new location through the screen filter then into the pump inlet.
The original screws can be reused or replaced,but be sure that the screw length is right length to get good penetration into the flooring but not penetrate the shower pan.
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Old 12-02-2015, 06:53 PM   #3
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Thanks for that Floyd. We were wondering whether there would be a negative affect on the drainage... but we think we understand that pump to be like a sump pump taking the shower water to the grey water tank... is that correct?

The owners manual doesn't give a lot of info on it. The drain still hangs down... did you protect it with anything? was thinking of a skid plate that covers it so it doesn't get hit.

Anyone try something like this?
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:37 PM   #4
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Thanks for that Floyd. We were wondering whether there would be a negative affect on the drainage... but we think we understand that pump to be like a sump pump taking the shower water to the grey water tank... is that correct?

The owners manual doesn't give a lot of info on it. The drain still hangs down... did you protect it with anything? was thinking of a skid plate that covers it so it doesn't get hit.

Anyone try something like this?
Thx again... Teal
I placed a small skid plate which has worked well for the few times it was needed. I doubt you will need any further protection though since you have a 16 and much more ground clearance than my 13.
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Old 12-03-2015, 12:25 PM   #5
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shower sump pump

I've had the same thought of protecting some of that plumbing at the front of the trailer. I was mulling over whether to move the sump pump closer to the waste tank and perhaps doing away with that "P" trap type white thing.

But that would mean the pump would have to provide more suction, rather than push waste water the length of the trailer. Would that make a difference? Then the pump and the filter and everything could be much better protected from road hazard, and would be easier to protect from freezing, etc. by moving it inside the envelope.

Some sort of skid plate at least seems a good idea.

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I've had the same thought of protecting some of that plumbing at the front of the trailer. I was mulling over whether to move the sump pump closer to the waste tank and perhaps doing away with that "P" trap type white thing.

But that would mean the pump would have to provide more suction, rather than push waste water the length of the trailer. Would that make a difference? Then the pump and the filter and everything could be much better protected from road hazard, and would be easier to protect from freezing, etc. by moving it inside the envelope.

Some sort of skid plate at least seems a good idea.

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You have a 16. Moving the pump into the left well like in the picture above will be plenty.
As for the filter and the trap, There is little likelihood of damage,since you have more ground clearance than my 13. The skid mechanism should dissuade you of any residual angst.
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Oh good, I hate that residual angst

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Who needs the sink trap?

Allow me to throw this idea out there for anybody to rip apart, flame it or stomp on... Or should I send this idea for cost reduction to Scamp?

The purpose of the plumbing drain traps is to stop the sewer gas from poisoning us. I have never noticed any obnoxious smell of the grey water, which is a mix of shower water and kitchen sink water. If it smells any, it is of the detergent and soap. Scamp does not connect those two systems at all. In fact, I first drain the black water and then rinse the slinky with the grey water to make the job more tolerable.

Beardrum questions the need for the P-trap in his post:...perhaps doing away with that "P" trap type white thing... and I think he is right.
Would this be a problem with other trailers?
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Allow me to throw this idea out there for anybody to rip apart, flame it or stomp on... Or should I send this idea for cost reduction to Scamp?

The purpose of the plumbing drain traps is to stop the sewer gas from poisoning us. I have never noticed any obnoxious smell of the grey water, which is a mix of shower water and kitchen sink water. If it smells any, it is of the detergent and soap. Scamp does not connect those two systems at all. In fact, I first drain the black water and then rinse the slinky with the grey water to make the job more tolerable.

Beardrum questions the need for the P-trap in his post:...perhaps doing away with that "P" trap type white thing... and I think he is right.
Would this be a problem with other trailers?
That little drain/trap combo thing is small and cheap and offers the most practical way to hook up the tubing to the drain, I don't see any advantage to trying to eliminate it, especially since the strainer is also needed to protect the pump and keep debris out of the gray tank.
The thing is about as compact as anything which could replace it...

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I have to concede that the trap is a reasonable, 90 degree, means of connecting the drain and provides the benefits you listed. However, the shower and bathroom sink drain transfer pump is protected by the round screen under that translucent cover. I crawl under at least once a season to clean it.
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I have to concede that the trap is a reasonable, 90 degree, means of connecting the drain and provides the benefits you listed. However, the shower and bathroom sink drain transfer pump is protected by the round screen under that translucent cover. I crawl under at least once a season to clean it.
Didn't I say that?
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:38 AM   #12
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Question, when did Scamp start using the shower drain pump? I have a 90 16' layout 4 with no pump, am considering putting one in. Is it worth the money? I must add MERRY CHRISTMAS to all. Ifeel the info that is shared here is like a Christmas gift every day.
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Whoa, is there a second supply pump to help the shower water pressure? News to me...looks like I need to crawl around underneath some more...
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I have a 98 16' layout 6 which has a front bath. There is a pump to move the shower and sink water from the front drain to the rearward grey tank.

My original pump was quite small and was mounted under the shower pan area. A couple years ago the original pump wore out and I replaced it with a larger pump that Scamp now sells. I was concerned about the larger pump hanging so low beneath the shower so I mounted it at the higher point where the toilet sits.

I'm not certain but it's possible the layouts that have the bath on the side of the trailer rather than the front may not come with a pump.


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