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Old 12-04-2002, 10:33 AM   #15
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Corner jacks

Mike .. neat stuff!

I'd like more info on the four "auto" corner jacks.

I've often thought about adding to "fold-down," side-crank, boat trailer jacks to the rear of my trailer ... so it would be easy to lower and crank them up to level.

Are yours similar?
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:41 AM   #16
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Thanks, Charles for bringing that up. My two rear jacks were missing from my TT when I bought it. Right now, I'm using the small jack stands, but plan on having something permanent installed. Rather than go back to the orignal type, this sounds like it could be very promising.

Did you post a picture of them that I missed? I would really like to see them.
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Old 12-04-2002, 12:47 PM   #17
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<img src=http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/uploads/3dee4b074d0cfjacks.jpg/>

There one is. I used jacks from Ford Festivas - they were free. :)

Good things:
REAL solid! These things aren't gonna be snapping anytime soon or accidentally flipping up. Trailer isn't gonna slide off one either.

Downside:
Takes longer to crank down than to set up a jackstand or use a flip-down jack. Suppose I could save some time by shoving a 4x4 under the jack - but then I'd have to carry them along with me. :)

I considered using the flip-down jacks, but my bumper/frame was too close to the ground for their low-end clearance. I think that's the way to go if your frame is higher than mine is.

I'd also strongly reccomend adding stabilizer jacks to the front as well. Before I did that the trailer had a tendency to rock a bit (especially as you went in the door - it's just the angles). By putting a pair of jacks on the front, the trailer ends up on 4 legs and it's not going anywhere. Gives you an absolutely rock solid platform. I'd only bother dropping the back jacks if I was on the road and wanted to get a quick getaway in the morning though.

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Old 12-04-2002, 02:36 PM   #18
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mike-Consider using your rechargeable drill with the proper bit in it for raising and lowering. Recharge the drill while rolling with an inverter.

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Old 12-07-2002, 06:30 PM   #19
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DITO CHARLES WATTS MESSAGE,good work and a good story with it,
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Old 12-07-2002, 08:02 PM   #20
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Mike Watters, is that you in your avatar getting eaten by a vacuum or an octapus? That 's one bad thing about those avatars, they are so little you can't see the people. I can say yours is original.
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Old 12-07-2002, 08:57 PM   #21
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I survived...

I'm not often accused of following the herd...

Yup - That's me in the avatar. The picture was taken at the Aquarium in Seattle this last summer. My daughter took it - it's her favorite picture. :)

If you want to check out a larger - more high-rez version, it's also in the 'photo' page of the Bolertrailerclub on yahoo.
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Old 12-08-2002, 06:57 AM   #22
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Old 12-08-2002, 09:25 AM   #23
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Mike W. Are the jacks bolted on or are they welded on?
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:34 PM   #24
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Thanks for the questions Suz...

The jacks have been welded on. I had it done at the same time I was having the frame repaired/reinforced.

After we arrived in Seattle on our first trip - we noticed a crack in the frame where it bends inward to form the toungue. (It's a known weak spot in Bolers. I hesitate to call it a 'flaw'. If something lasts for 30 years without a problem - I call it a pretty decent design.)

Anyway, we took it into a welding shop to repair and reinforce the frame at that location (and the same on the other side). The repair is actually visable in that shot.

Anyway - we brought in the four jacks to install at the same time. To attach them to the frame, they first welded the jacks to a U-shaped piece of steel (at the bottom of the U). The U then slipped up around the frame and was welded into place. In other words - the U helps to act to reinforce the frame in that region too.

I think it would be a mistake to try to bolt something to the frame in that location. The is already a high-stress location (it's roughly midway between the axle and the hitch) AND there's a bend nearby too. Weakening the frame further by drilling a hole through it wouldn't be that advisable... IMHO of course.

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* * * * * * Mike W. Are the jacks bolted on or are they welded on?
Hi Mike
I got a similar jack set up on my 17 ft boler. I can lift the whole unit off the ground. They sure work good. They were their when I bought unit.:wave
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Old 12-16-2002, 03:06 PM   #26
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Northern Tool& Equipment has what I used. Item # 14872-F749 is the number for them in this old catalog I keep in my desk.$9.99 each. Had to do a little mod. work that anyone could do.
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Weak spot in frame

Mike,
My Burro had the same fix done to the frame in the same spots.
I think it's common for these trailers.

I haven't heard of any Casitas or Scamps having this weakness, but you never know....
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Old 12-17-2002, 05:52 PM   #28
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Anyone with a Casita or Scamp care to chime in on their frame construction? I would expect that any trailer that was constructed the same way would have the same weakness. The frame bends in at that location to form the tounge. The bend makes for a weak spot of course. That point also seems to be around the midpoint between the ball and the axle - so that's gonna be highly stressed as well.

My Boler was actually built with a reinforcing gusset at that point - it failed just in front of the factory reinforcment.
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