|
|
11-06-2006, 03:14 PM
|
#21
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 17 ft 1986 Burro
Posts: 889
|
Myron,
I can see why you need a bigger bed with that Moose of a dog in there with you.
|
|
|
11-06-2006, 05:21 PM
|
#22
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
Posts: 2,867
|
Myron,
I have been watching your mod here with interest, as both my hubby and I are tall and we too have a 13' Burro. We seem to fit all right in the bed, but both of us spend a restless first night and then wake up to stretch several times in subsequent nights (At least I do. Maybe it is because he hogs the bed.)
As the tall wife who also uses the portapoddy at night, where do you put it with your modification? I don't see floor space in the picture with it extended.
CindyL
__________________
1988 Bigfoot Silver Cloud, "The Egg Carton"
|
|
|
11-06-2006, 07:30 PM
|
#23
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler 13 ft
Posts: 207
|
Myron did you do this extension as a slide out? If so could you post a few pictures of the workings?
|
|
|
11-06-2006, 11:06 PM
|
#24
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1981 13 ft Scamp ('Dacha' Russian summer house) / 2006 Tacoma V6
Posts: 163
|
I don't see how one can get out of that bed. Have you ever tried to get out of the foot of a bed? The covers have to be completely off (a mate wouldn't like that) and then a front somersault to get to the floor. Repeat in reverse to reenter. Maybe a video clip would explain the gymnastics required.
|
|
|
11-07-2006, 12:05 AM
|
#25
|
Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
|
Quote:
I don't see how one can get out of that bed. Have you ever tried to get out of the foot of a bed? The covers have to be completely off (a mate wouldn't like that) and then a front somersault to get to the floor. Repeat in reverse to reenter. Maybe a video clip would explain the gymnastics required.
|
Sleeping bags, no problem with covers off mate.
Getting out.
Sit up skoot forward until you can put feet on the floor
Stand up.
Getting in.
Sit down skoot back to where you want to be.
Lay down. Zip up sleeping bag.
No somersault required.
__________________
Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
|
|
|
11-07-2006, 07:15 AM
|
#26
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
|
Quote:
Sleeping bags, no problem with covers off mate.
Getting out.
Sit up skoot forward until you can put feet on the floor
Stand up.
Getting in.
Sit down skoot back to where you want to be.
Lay down. Zip up sleeping bag.
No somersault required.
|
Sounds like info from an experienced Tube Tent camper You're right Byron, sleeping bags might be the best bedding for this application. Or individual sheets/blankets.
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
|
|
|
11-07-2006, 08:02 AM
|
#27
|
Senior Member
Name: Myron
Trailer: Escape
New Mexico
Posts: 987
|
Byron's got it right. Sleeping bags and skootch forward with leg power but I see no reason why blankets and sheets should be avoided. We're all adults, here. (Tried a theoretical somersault once and landed out the door...on my feet, of course.)
It's a slider, Barbara. Lift rear lip up and pull forward. I added stick on sliding felt to the rear lip and, as mentioned earlier, the locking knob goes in after sliding, to avoid scratching table surface. Second pix is for Cindy, shot with wide angle lens.
Gentle Ben is a rescue from the Newark dog pound where as a youngster he was on death row. We are told he's part pit bull and part Rhodesian Ridgeback.
|
|
|
11-07-2006, 08:22 PM
|
#28
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
Posts: 2,867
|
Thanks, Myron,
Now I see how it fits. Not sure if it will work for us. We seem to pile all kinds of stuff in that spot as we get ready for bed but a mod for us to think about. We aren't quite as tall as you and your wife though.
We have put the dinette in the front, so if we try that mod, we would be putting the hinge on the dinette board that would be taken out during the day. Can't stand the bed being left up. I like the space without the dinette.
Aren't the 13' Burros fun to tinker with? Much though I would like the space of a larger trailer, there is something cozy and personal about the little ones. And cute. Besides, we could not fit a larger one on our parking pad.
CindyL
__________________
1988 Bigfoot Silver Cloud, "The Egg Carton"
|
|
|
11-10-2006, 07:13 AM
|
#29
|
Senior Member
Trailer: 1978 Volkswagen Westfalia
Posts: 141
|
Wondering if you could do something like that for the front couch so that you would have a "wider" bed?
|
|
|
12-14-2006, 12:08 AM
|
#30
|
Member
Trailer: 1985 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 97
|
I've imagined something like this, so it's great to see that it can be done. What you haven't said is how well you sleep, but I assume it's a more comfortable place now.
For my wife and I, the problem isn't our height but our width. I sleep with my face a few inches from a hard fiberglass counter wall, which I've had to insulate so it doesn't radiate coldth (a scientific term) all night. We're accustomed to spooning all night, and rolling over in tandem like synchronized sleepers. I read that Civil War re-enactors, lacking any sleeping bags, spoon together like this in long chains.
I can't devote the dinette to a full-time bed because we need bunks in front, but I believe I'd set this up every night just for the extra space. Thanks for a great tip. Makes you wonder why Scamp didn't think about it first. Sometimes I think they're too traditional-minded and set in their ways?
|
|
|
12-14-2006, 12:46 AM
|
#31
|
Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
|
Quote:
Makes you wonder why Scamp didn't think about it first. Sometimes I think they're too traditional-minded and set in their ways?
|
My guess there isn't the demand for that type of system and it would probably increase the cost.
My preference is the way it is in my 2006 13' Scamp. I'm not sure if our needs are the same as most people. I know they're not the same as some. For us the amount of sleeping room is greater in the non-modified Scamp bed than it is in our backpacking tent. We've spent many happy nights in that little tent and intend on spend a few more, so the Scamp feels like luxury to us.
One of the great things about these little trailers is that you can easily modifiy and change them to suit your needs. This forum seems to present more different ideas to solve any problem than any place I've seen. Even though I don't intend to modify my bed like Myron is doing, it's nice to see what he is doing.
__________________
Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
|
|
|
12-17-2006, 11:01 PM
|
#32
|
Member
Trailer: 1985 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 97
|
Brian wrote:
"I'm not sure if our needs are the same as most people. I know they're not the same as some. For us the amount of sleeping room is greater in the non-modified Scamp bed than it is in our backpacking tent."
You must have one mighty small tent! Smaller than a Scamnp's full-sized bed? My smallest tent is 30 square feet, and it wouldn't contribute more than one-ninth of the weight of your 45 lb pack. But my next tent, coming in the mail next week, is 35 sq. ft inside the screening, plus two large vestibules under nylon, all for a whopping 2.5 lbs. Given this site's bent towards small, efficient shelters, I'll someday have to take the time to blog about recent developments in lightweight backpacking. It's a wonderful new world out there -- sleeping between the trees in hammocks, or on down-filled air mattresses, is a long way removed from the days of quarter-inch blue foam pads on the floor of your eight-pound tent. Time to wake up and smell the syl-nylon!
|
|
|
12-17-2006, 11:38 PM
|
#33
|
Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp
Posts: 7,056
|
Quote:
Brian wrote:
"I'm not sure if our needs are the same as most people. I know they're not the same as some. For us the amount of sleeping room is greater in the non-modified Scamp bed than it is in our backpacking tent."
You must have one mighty small tent! Smaller than a Scamnp's full-sized bed? My smallest tent is 30 square feet, and it wouldn't contribute more than one-ninth of the weight of your 45 lb pack. But my next tent, coming in the mail next week, is 35 sq. ft inside the screening, plus two large vestibules under nylon, all for a whopping 2.5 lbs.
|
I've got an older Kelty Cyclone, 34.6 square feet of floor space, with 2 vestibules at 13.7 square feet each. It's a might on the heavy side at 7 pounds. The actual bed area is closer 25 square feet. The tent sides curve in sooner, add a bit of gear (clothes, a couple pairs of boots), and it feels a lot smaller than trailer bed. And sleeping in the tent is sleeping on 20" x 44" pads.
Quote:
Given this site's bent towards small, efficient shelters, I'll someday have to take the time to blog about recent developments in lightweight backpacking. It's a wonderful new world out there -- sleeping between the trees in hammocks, or on down-filled air mattresses, is a long way removed from the days of quarter-inch blue foam pads on the floor of your eight-pound tent. Time to wake up and smell the syl-nylon!
|
Comming a long way is right. I spent a very few nights on that blue foam stuff. Thermarest had just come on the sceen, a bit expensive, but I wouldn't be without one now. My first pack weighed around 50 pounds, then I kept adding to 60+. I'm getting too old to haul around a 60+ pack around. I'm sure I can go lower than 45 lbs by inserting money.
Happy Camping.
__________________
Byron & Anne enjoying the everyday Saturday thing.
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
Similar Threads
|
Thread |
Thread Starter |
Forum |
Replies |
Last Post |
[at]^#&()(&^$!! TABLE!
|
Judith Kennedy |
Modifications, Alterations and Updates |
7 |
05-06-2012 11:17 AM |
Rethinking the Auto
|
Benita |
General Chat |
2 |
12-29-2008 10:23 PM |
New Table Top
|
Gerry |
Modifications, Alterations and Updates |
25 |
05-07-2008 10:14 PM |
Rethinking Camping
|
Donna D. |
Camping, Campout Reports |
10 |
09-26-2007 10:35 AM |
Table for Two?
|
Steve L. |
Modifications, Alterations and Updates |
14 |
01-06-2006 02:01 PM |
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Upcoming Events |
No events scheduled in the next 465 days.
|
|