Roof damage, Triliium #136 - Fiberglass RV


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Old 10-09-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
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Roof damage, Triliium #136

I just brought my first Trillium home on Friday (Oct. 7). It is also close to being one of the first Trilliums, registration number 136.

Needless to say there are many issues with this trailer. Not really abused, just not really looked after.

When I looked down onto the roof this morning, I noticed the pattern on the roof.

The second shot is a closer look.

The third shot is what I found when I got some of the "roof coating" removed.

The fourth shot is my repair.

And this is only the beginning!!!


Ok, just kidding about the repair. It only has to last overnight, in case it rains!! Of course, living on the WestCoast, it will rain.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:56 AM   #2
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Red Green would love it.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:48 AM   #3
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You know that you only need two repair tools: duct tape and WD-40. Looks like you used the right one.
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I would have used the "red" tape, but, couldn't find it in the shop!!

Just as an interesting note, there is quite a good size fracture right at that point. The 'glass is completely punctured. Yet, there is no damage, at all, to the ensolite inside. I would guess that something hit the roof pretty hard at that point.
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Another quick question.

The stuff on the roof seems to be some kind of rubber based paint/bed liner.

Any tips for getting this stuff off?

I have tried lacquer thinner, acetone, heating with a torch, scraping, sanding, grinding. None of which are enjoying resounding success!!!
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:20 AM   #6
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If it were me I would just place a piece of eternabond tape over it. It's good stuff and will seal good if you clean the surface good first.
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If it were me I would just place a piece of eternabond tape over it. It's good stuff and will seal good if you clean the surface good first.
Thanks bicklebok.

I used eternabond to seal up my old camper. That stuff is sticky! I had used the paintable type so I was able to paint the roof, after I did the seams.

On the trailer I would like to paint. The paint/colour scheme was probably great for the guy that did it, but, for me it has to be changed. It seems like it will just be a lot of work.

I was going to remove it all. The P.O. had painted the roof and lower portion with the rubber stuff. I may just leave the lower portion as is.
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Another quick question.
The stuff on the roof seems to be some kind of rubber based paint/bed liner.
Any tips for getting this stuff off?
I have tried lacquer thinner, acetone, heating with a torch, scraping, sanding, grinding. None of which are enjoying resounding success!!!
Have you tried a specialized paint stipper such as products of the dominon sure seal ?

Otherwise, you may have some sort of epoxy/urethane based / two part product such as products of the dominon sure seal or products of the dominon sure seal. The latter is told to be "very rugged product withstands abrasion, gasoline, acids and has a very high tear strength", matching your description very closely.

Problem is, with the paint stripper, you may also dissolve the roof fiberglass shell which is basically bound together with polyester resin. "If you can't beat them, join them" as we use to say... the other solution is maybe to test for bounding, repair with epoxy and roving and apply a new coat of the same material, or compatible paint to match the rest of the roof.

Only suggestions based on educated guess and your pictures.
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one thing that i have used for paint, aircraft dope and other finishes is permatex gasket remover but not sure what it would do to the fiberglass
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Thanks Dudley and Martin.

Very good point about dissolving the polyester resin in the shell. I would think that as long as 'whatever' was rinsed off there should be limited problems?

Never would have thought of gasket remover. I checked out the website, removes powder coat. I had always thought that stuff was really tough.
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Another quick question.

The stuff on the roof seems to be some kind of rubber based paint/bed liner.

Any tips for getting this stuff off?

I have tried lacquer thinner, acetone, heating with a torch, scraping, sanding, grinding. None of which are enjoying resounding success!!!
If you can't get it off. Personally I would add more... Grind around the hole. Repair the hole. Go to the spray on bedliner place and have them recoat the whole roof. Maybe a different color if you want... Just what I would do..... Seal it for life... Randy
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Thanks, G'Pit.

I had thought about doing that! I just wonder about a couple of things. This is definitely a "rubber" type of coating. It doesn't seem to have a really solid bond to the surface.

The trailer has been painted the somewhat scummy kind of brown. Looks like an oil base paint, has been brushed on? Then the rubber stuff has been applied, both onto the roof and along the bottom.

I would like to change the colour scheme, scummy brown and flat black are not my "colours of choice". I wonder if the black stuff would "bleed" through when painted over a different colour?
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I would just use a wire wheel to remove the rubberized coating. Then drind down the crack slightly and add a few layers of fibreglass over the cracks.
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Kurt,

I tried the wire wheel method this afternoon. This is definitely a rubber type of compound. It was very resistant to coming off, then, all of a sudden would just let go!! Made it very difficult to control.

My original idea was to remove the entire coating and re-paint a nice gloss finish. Now, I am thinking that I will do the fibreglass repair, with resin/cloth/mat, then redo the rubber type stuff. Hopefully in a different colour. Somehow black does not seem like a practical roof colour.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
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