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Old 08-27-2016, 07:12 PM   #197
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Jonathan,

I haven't posted much, and I took the wimpy route and order a new Casita, but I'm incredibly impressed by your build out, and it's the one thread on this forum that I always have to check out. And living in north Georgia, I can totally relate to your struggles with the heat--I framed out a new room on my shop last year, when the heat index was over 100 every day, and it is a unique experience. After a few days I filled a cooler with water and gatorade and set my watch to beep every 20 minutes, to remind me to drink a bottle 3x/hr. It's brutal, so be careful, but think of the stories you'll be able to tell around the campfire outside your personalized Casita. You should be incredibly proud, because you're doing a great job, and we all appreciate you sharing it.

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Old 08-27-2016, 08:47 PM   #198
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What Steve said. I agree completely. Great project. Great thread. THANK YOU FOR SHARING! You are helping more people than you can possibly know...
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:10 PM   #199
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Nothing square to refer to or from on a fiberglass shell. Welcome to my world

At least the Campsters and Compacts have more flat planes than a Casita. Not that I actually do have any truly flat walls.
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Old 08-27-2016, 11:05 PM   #200
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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd handle this situation if there are simply NO square surfaces to go by. Would the answer be to just make certain you are level and plumb, and let the curved areas be danged?

I can imagine I'd need the front and sides of a cabinet to be plumb, and the top to be level... And that whatever had to happen to make things connect to the curved shell was less important?

(Asking because I'm still needing to build out that missing closet in Lil Bigfoot)
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Old 08-28-2016, 01:34 AM   #201
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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd handle this situation if there are simply NO square surfaces to go by. Would the answer be to just make certain you are level and plumb, and let the curved areas be danged?
I can imagine I'd need the front and sides of a cabinet to be plumb, and the top to be level... And that whatever had to happen to make things connect to the curved shell was less important?
(Asking because I'm still needing to build out that missing closet in Lil Bigfoot)
Hi Ellpea, not sure where your missing closet is supposed to be. If it's next to an existing cabinet, that's your starting point and square it up as close as you can and build out from there. Nothing in any of these molded TTs is square and nobody ever sees it until they're doing a mod . Just yell "starboard tac" and sail on .
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:32 AM   #202
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People with OCD will have a very hard time of it when renovating an old FGRV.
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Old 08-28-2016, 02:35 AM   #203
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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd handle this situation if there are simply NO square surfaces to go by. Would the answer be to just make certain you are level and plumb, and let the curved areas be danged?

I can imagine I'd need the front and sides of a cabinet to be plumb, and the top to be level... And that whatever had to happen to make things connect to the curved shell was less important?

(Asking because I'm still needing to build out that missing closet in Lil Bigfoot)
Why not start a thread on that missing closet? I am sure you will get lots of input. But do post lots of photos and some measurements too.

As to how one goes about it when you have nothing square to start with, that is a subject I started talking about in post #171 on Friday in my Campster renovation thread. It will be an ongoing subject for the next month as I show it progessing by stages.
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:46 AM   #204
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Why not start a thread on that missing closet? I am sure you will get lots of input. But do post lots of photos and some measurements too.
As to how one goes about it when you have nothing square to start with, that is a subject I started talking about in post #171 on Friday in my Campster renovation thread. It will be an ongoing subject for the next month as I show it progessing by stages.
KC, your info in post #171 is fine for a "height" reference for a total interior rebuild for new counter tops. That may help folks doing that, but Ellpea is only replacing a closet that will be from floor to ceiling and an addition to an existing interior, different animal. She's not doing a full reno like you are. A separate thread with some pics may help some but her concern was about square, which, as you know is only an accident with RVs.
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Hi Ellpea, not sure where your missing closet is supposed to be. If it's next to an existing cabinet, that's your starting point and square it up as close as you can and build out from there. Nothing in any of these molded TTs is square and nobody ever sees it until they're doing a mod . Just yell "starboard tac" and sail on .
Dave, it's the standard closet/cabinet you find to the left of the door in many 13's. Mine is completely gone except for a remining strip of wood right next to the door (there's detail of it in the little video I did under "Ellpea's Corner Curtain Hack.")

No kidding about the "sailing on." When I threw that little frame together, the front is very nice and square and plumb. The backside (next to the window and on the curve of the shell) is about as awful as you can imagine. Think determined female with jigsaw and weak wrists. AND OCD -- so everything has to line up (at least in front)!
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Old 08-28-2016, 07:07 PM   #206
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I'm just trying to imagine how I'd handle this situation if there are simply NO square surfaces to go by.
I struggled with this for a while, and in fact made some cuts based on what I thought was square, yet wasn't. In the end the solution came down to finding what I guess you might call a "relative square," that is, angles that are reasonably square, yet within an overall structure that has no precise squares at all.

As KC noted, nothing is square on these fiberglass campers. At the same time, things are relatively square to each other, so if you come up with some angle that's a blend of square to the various objects around it, theoretically you'll end up with something that looks right.

........................... that makes perfect sense in my head, yet have a feeling it makes no sense at all! LOL!!

As for my little project, I did indeed gain some clarity this morning as I drank my coffee and thought about what I should do next which led me to... can you guess?



Yep, another trip to Lowe's!

The project I decided to focus on was the doors to the various cabinets, which seemed fairly logical as they wouldn't really be all that useful if stuff would just fly out of them. I had saved all of the original doors thinking that I'd reuse them, although upon inspection I determined that they were in much worse shape than they seemed when I first got the camper... the material was Masonite and many of the doors had puffed out in spots due to water damage, they also had a lot of holes that needed to get filled in, and at the end of the day they were really heavy so I decided to toss them and make ones from scratch.

I opted to go with sort of a Shaker look, since I didn't have or want to spend the money on a router I built the main frame out of two sizes of lattice:



This allowed me to set in some 1/4" luan plywood for then center area:



Fast forward to the end of the day........... new cabinet doors ready for paint!



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Old 08-28-2016, 07:40 PM   #207
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You never cease to amaze me with the things you get done in a day and you are so modest with it.
Oh, what shall I do today? I know, I'll just make a few cabinet doors.
I would plan and measure for days before I even thought of going out to Lowe's (if we even had Lowe's). Explains why I am still doing my ceiling and you are almost finished your cabinets.
Great day's work, as usual. I like the shaker style and they must be quite light.
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Old 08-28-2016, 07:46 PM   #208
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You never cease to amaze me with the things you get done in a day and you are so modest with it.
I know, RIGHT? I think... oh, I think I'll vacuum the trailer (a big stretch is to mop the floor). Whew done.
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I agree with Pat. You continuously amaze me.

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Old 08-28-2016, 08:40 PM   #210
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Good thinking Johathan!

Those overlaps of the lattice and plywood layers mean it won't come apart on bumpy roads. In some ways that framing is acting as another layer in the plywood because plywood often has cross grain layers. It is all in how you put it together when you think outside of the standard (cabinets) box. This one works nicely and it looks nice too

I have seen that plywood underlayment at Lowes and thought it had a nice grain to it and was well put together. I am pretty sure from the color and grain of that veneer layer that it is Meranti which is also used as a veneer on some of the marine cabinetry plywoods.
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