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Old 06-10-2015, 11:18 AM   #15
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Ummm...guys.. "Dan" hasnt posted on this here in 12 yrs! (maybe longer!)
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:24 AM   #16
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Ummm...guys.. "Dan" hasnt posted on this here in 12 yrs! (maybe longer!)
Didn't notice that. I wonder how his mods turned out.

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Old 06-10-2015, 11:30 AM   #17
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To be honest, it appears that the "Dan" guy's posts are gone! Not sure about this "Legacy Posts".

"Em" (Emily) is the one to whom I was suggesting a way to cover the wrought iron. It's not removed but just covered and intact exactly the way Scamp ships it.

(BEAUTIFUL toys you build!)

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Didn't notice that. I wonder how his mods turned out.

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Old 06-10-2015, 11:36 AM   #18
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My thought is that the wood cabinets screwed through the fiberglass into the wood structure gives better support than the few pop rivets in the fiberglass cabinets.
As I installed the wood cabinets in my 86 project I could feel the stiffening of the whole structure as I worked.
I cut away the insulation where the cabinets mounted and glued and screwed then in place and in my Scamper the overhead cabinets are form the bonded in wall front the rear and also across the back. The cabinets are also glued and screwed to each other. It is like having a 12" oak beam alon the roofline!




With this setupp I don't believe any additional bracing is necessary and the stiffness from the cabinets may be why there are no braces in the Scamp deluxe versions. I couldn't speak for that really since I have never seen one!
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:44 AM   #19
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That's going to BE a "Deluxe" when you get through JD. Looks really good. And I agree 100% with the stiffening with that type of mount. Just not sure why Scamp doesnt incorporate that into the "Standard" or all-fiberglass interior models! It would get rid of SO many of those blasted rivets. Oh...and while they're at it...put strips to mount the curtain rods to for crying out loud!
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:01 PM   #20
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That's going to BE a "Deluxe" when you get through JD. Looks really good. And I agree 100% with the stiffening with that type of mount. Just not sure why Scamp doesnt incorporate that into the "Standard" or all-fiberglass interior models! It would get rid of SO many of those blasted rivets. Oh...and while they're at it...put strips to mount the curtain rods to for crying out loud!
Darral,

My 2014 Scamp came with thick aluminum window frames, nearly 2 inches. I suspect they are stock RV windows made for 1 - 2 inch thick RV walls. The Scamp's thin wall leaves most of the window thickness protruding into the interior. I realized too late that this sturdy aluminum frame would make a great support for a wooden strip from which to hang the curtains, much better than Scamp's through hull rivets. I advise folks to ask Scamp to forget mounting the curtains and add the wood strip to their new Scamp themselves. More elegant, more sturdy, less chance of rivet leaks. It would even be easier and cheaper for Scamp to do it this way. This would also make mounting mini-blinds pretty easy too.

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Old 06-10-2015, 02:13 PM   #21
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I'm SO glad someone else finally admitted to Scamp's UGLY and outdated "wrought-iron" supports under their cabinets
Yup more than a few folks have admitted to it LONG ago!

The original post on this thread was 12 years ago (although I suspect there are other older threads with same topic)!!
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:31 PM   #22
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You may not believe this John, but that was my EXACT intentions: to have them let ME install the curtains. But we changed our plans as the wife wanted to pick up the Scamp instead of having them to deliver. So I didnt want to be curtainless (word?) coming home so I said the "heck with it". But you're spot on! My windows as well protrudes into my Scamp apx 1". In fact, I use some "shades" I made (with RocLun material) and use velcro stuck on the bottom corners of the window frames to hold the shades against the window. (Because with the angle of the windows on the sides, they stand away at the bottom.) Of course the curtains hang over these and you dont see them from inside the Scamp. ANOTHER fault of Scamp- putting "see-through" curtains up from the factory!

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My 2014 Scamp came with thick aluminum window frames, nearly 2 inches. I suspect they are stock RV windows made for 1 - 2 inch thick RV walls. The Scamp's thin wall leaves most of the window thickness protruding into the interior. I realized too late that this sturdy aluminum frame would make a great support for a wooden strip from which to hang the curtains, much better than Scamp's through hull rivets. I advise folks to ask Scamp to forget mounting the curtains and add the wood strip to their new Scamp themselves. More elegant, more sturdy, less chance of rivet leaks. It would even be easier and cheaper for Scamp to do it this way. This would also make mounting mini-blinds pretty easy too.

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Old 06-10-2015, 03:37 PM   #23
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ANOTHER fault of Scamp- putting "see-through" curtains up from the factory!
My dw added lining to our curtains. Seems a silly omission on Scamp's part. How much could heavier fabric increase costs?

I can think of several dozen changes I would make were I the Scamp god and the total cost would be about $200.00. Such as: LED lights, real curtains, quieter water pump and furnace, maxxair, oxygenics shower head, a porch light that shines down and not straight out, etc. etc.

Not to say that I wouldn't buy a Scamp again. They get most things very right and the competition has similar and different trade offs.

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Old 06-10-2015, 04:01 PM   #24
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I hear ya John...they could at LEAST offer them as "options" (excluding non-see-through-should-be-standard curtains!). Another pet peeve USE to be the door seal to which they've since changed to the rubber lip seal. The door latch is another. I just changed mine out last year to a FIC....WONDERFUL mod! It has a real-to-life deadbolt and not a pin. It doesnt look like a bread truck door latch either. Quite a feat but I'm glad I did it. Hopefully they're now adding alarms which should be standard as well and are in MOST RV's. And of course...the rivets...aint even going there!

We love the Scamp itself- pulls like a dream! But I'm like you, there's just some things that Kent Eveland (owner) should at LEAST entertain on changing by listening to customers. He did on the door seal at least (after many years)!

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My dw added lining to our curtains. Seems a silly omission on Scamp's part. How much could heavier fabric increase costs?

I can think of several dozen changes I would make were I the Scamp god and the total cost would be about $200.00. Such as: LED lights, real curtains, quieter water pump and furnace, maxxair, oxygenics shower head, a porch light that shines down and not straight out, etc. etc.

Not to say that I wouldn't buy a Scamp again. They get most things very right and the competition has similar and different trade offs.

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