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Old 04-13-2015, 12:54 PM   #15
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Steve, we have Scamp's current low loop-pile carpet. We bought a 3x5 area rug (rubber backed, so nothing gets through), cut it down to 3x3, which covers nearly all of the lowered center floor (except the door, which has its own waterproof mat), and had an upholstery shop bind the cut edge. We chose a bright pattern to relieve the overwhelming Scamp beige-ness. It only takes about two minutes once or twice a day to shake the whole thing outside. Easier than sweeping.

Sand is one thing; fine clay dust on a windy day- that's the worst (unless it rains!).
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:42 AM   #16
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We are looking at cork for the floor covering for our '76 Scamp. We have had vinyl and laminate and carpet. The carpet just held too much sand and if we got it wet, took a long time to dry. The laminate was cheap enough to replace and wasn't glued down just interlocked, with throw rugs and vinyl at the doorway. We may also do real wood flooring since we are replacing all the fiberglass cabinets with wood cabinets. It is such a small space.


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Old 04-29-2015, 04:54 PM   #17
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Hi Bill,
It sounds like you want to make it an easy project, and you want to make the wife happy. I LOVE my laminate flooring. It's super easy to sweep out and maintain (no vacuum necessary), and fairly easy to install. I use a mat at the foot of the bed/dinette section for easy shake out and for cleaner, homey comfort.

I'll be happy to provide you the details if this is something you're interested in installing.
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:07 PM   #18
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Hi Bill,
It sounds like you want to make it an easy project, and you want to make the wife happy. I LOVE my laminate flooring. It's super easy to sweep out and maintain (no vacuum necessary), and fairly easy to install. I use a mat at the foot of the bed/dinette section for easy shake out and for cleaner, homey comfort.

I'll be happy to provide you the details if this is something you're interested in installing.
Hidalga, thank yo very much for the comments and offer of help. The floor on your Scamp looks very nice!

I'm totally engrossed at this time in finding ALL the many water leaks, and stopping them. Later when that task is accomplished, I may take you up on your offer.

However, at the rate that I'm working...it most likely will be far far future!

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Old 04-30-2015, 09:05 AM   #19
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I covered the carpet of our Scamp with a cork laminate flooring that I had purchased in excess for my wood shop project. We then cover that with a throw rug to protect the cork, and more importantly, to add an additional layer for warmth. We use the trailer for a winter respite from cold weather in the south. The additional floor insulation is very welcome.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:59 PM   #20
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I agree with Norm about carpet. I had a pop up camper with vinyl floor for several years and always felt cold and yucky on my feet. I swept it a lot each day because I could always feel grit.

Scamp carpeting is soft underfoot and holds particulate well. I whisk broom in e a day and vacuum when I get home. Have a simple rubber backed carpeted mat at door which catches most of the crud. We take shoes off either outside on patio mat or inside if were lazy and then throw them out the door. I shake out little mat and that takes care of most of it.

One friend I know just cut the carpet to basically fit floor but didn't glue it. You could do that to try before you buy so to speak.

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I agree with Norm about carpet. I had a pop up camper with vinyl floor for several years and always felt cold and yucky on my feet. I swept it a lot each day because I could always feel grit.

Scamp carpeting is soft underfoot and holds particulate well. I whisk broom in e a day and vacuum when I get home. Have a simple rubber backed carpeted mat at door which catches most of the crud. We take shoes off either outside on patio mat or inside if were lazy and then throw them out the door. I shake out little mat and that takes care of most of it.

One friend I know just cut the carpet to basically fit floor but didn't glue it. You could do that to try before you buy so to speak.

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As I wrote above, I'm a long way from doing anything with the floor covering of my 13-foot Scamp.

At this moment, and remember I do change my mind almost hourly, my plan is to sand the plywood floor, and then coat it with epoxy resin to add to the waterproofing.

After that cured for several days, I would paint the floor with a good quailty deck and porch latex paint. Then add "wall to wall" carpet for ALL of the exposed floor, after the latex paint had harden for a couple of weeks..

The carpet would not to glued or fastened to the floor, and will be easy to lift up, and tote outside to shake and clean.

Anyway, that's what I now THINK I will do....

Thaks for all the good coments!

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Old 04-30-2015, 09:14 PM   #22
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There's a reason for slippers or socks. I've hated the carpet in my Scamp for years. I now have an ETI custom built trailer with a vinyl floor and rug runners. No competition. I would chose vinyl over carpet any day. Who wants to take a vacuum while camping? Not me YMMV. A wet paper towel cleans the vinyl, the rug runner can be shaken outside... and I'm always wear either socks or slippers inside the trailer. No yucky stuff stuck to the bottom of my feet or damp/cold feet walking to the "flushy." Again... YMMV
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:20 AM   #23
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Off gassing

I noted in another thread someone working on renovations has replaced their flooring with cork.
Sounds great.

We opted not to have new vinyl for our new Scamp (16' retrieved in Oct. 2014) as the off gassing of hazardous fumes is more that we wanted to be exposed to in an enclosed space. As it is the fiberglass resigns off gas for quite awhile.

Of course the carpet adhesives etc. all have volatile chemicals.

Always a trade off of what one can/is willing to live with.
We added an 110 AC powered hand vacuum while on the road to keep the carpet clean.
Once a week keeps it great. One lesson we learned was to also carry a container of carpet cleaner.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:39 AM   #24
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Do WHAT???? My new 2010 had vinyl and we NEVER smelled it. I hope no one reads your post and doesn't get vinyl because of the smell! And ours is a 13'!

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We opted not to have new vinyl for our new Scamp (16' retrieved in Oct. 2014) as the off gassing of hazardous fumes is more that we wanted to be exposed to in an enclosed space.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:01 AM   #25
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Why we did not chose vinyl

Hi Darral,

You may not "smell" the gasses.

Being science driven (both wife and I are research biologists/ecologists) we are likely "over the top" with such concerns.

Here is some info from Home Advisor (link at bottom)

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"Vinyl Flooring from a Green Perspective
For starters, let's talk vinyl. Johnston and the rest of the green remodeling community have some serious concerns about the durability of vinyl flooring, and its shortcomings from a health standpoint. Here's a list of things that David Johnston thinks you need to know if you're thinking about installing vinyl flooring in your home.

  • Vinyl Can Trap MoistureŚIn hot and humid climates where air conditioning is the norm, vinyl flooring can end up trapping moisture in your home. That can mean rot, flooring failure, and in a worst case scenario, the development of dangerous mold, which has been associated with everything from respiratory problems to disorders of the immune and nervous systems.
  • Vinyl ChlorideŚVinyl flooring off gases vinyl chloride fumes into your indoor environment. We all know that "beachball smell". In addition to being a known carcinogen, vinyl chloride has been implicated in vision and hearing problems, birth defects, gastrointestinal problems, and disorders of the skin, respiratory system, and liver.
  • Vinyl Flooring and LongevityŚVinyl flooring also comes up short in the longevity department, since it rarely lasts 10 years, and shows age even quicker. That adds up to more frequent, and expensive repair or replacement flooring projects, and more waste sent to the landfill.

During the production of materials such as vinyl, various chemicals are used. These chemicals slowly release themselves from the vinyl and into the surrounding air. This process is outgassing -- also called offgassing -- and can cause a wide array of health complications including headaches, fatigue and nausea. Offgassing is a common process and occurs in a wide array of common household items including furniture, carpet, clothing, flooring and wood products.

Read more : How Long Does It Take Vinyl to Outgas? | eHow
During the production of materials such as vinyl, various chemicals are used. These chemicals slowly release themselves from the vinyl and into the surrounding air. This process is outgassing -- also called offgassing -- and can cause a wide array of health complications including headaches, fatigue and nausea. Offgassing is a common process and occurs in a wide array of common household items including furniture, carpet, clothing, flooring and wood products.

Read more : How Long Does It Take Vinyl to Outgas? | eHow
During the production of materials such as vinyl, various chemicals are used. These chemicals slowly release themselves from the vinyl and into the surrounding air. This process is outgassing -- also called offgassing -- and can cause a wide array of health complications including headaches, fatigue and nausea. Offgassing is a common process and occurs in a wide array of common household items including furniture, carpet, clothing, flooring and wood products.

Read more : How Long Does It Take Vinyl to Outgas? | eHow
During the production of materials such as vinyl, various chemicals are used. These chemicals slowly release themselves from the vinyl and into the surrounding air. This process is outgassing -- also called offgassing -- and can cause a wide array of health complications including headaches, fatigue and nausea. Offgassing is a common process and occurs in a wide array of common household items including furniture, carpet, clothing, flooring and wood products.

Read more : How Long Does It Take Vinyl to Outgas? | eHow
During the production of materials such as vinyl, various chemicals are used. These chemicals slowly release themselves from the vinyl and into the surrounding air. This process is outgassing -- also called offgassing -- and can cause a wide array of health complications including headaches, fatigue and nausea. Offgassing is a common process and occurs in a wide array of common household items including furniture, carpet, clothing, flooring and wood products."

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Choosing Green: Vinyl or Linoleum Sheet Flooring
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Ok Professor....now digress on the fiberglass that's MUCH more prevalent and still is to a small degree in my 5 yo Scamp. Ummm..no headaches or nausea here...but the wife sure didnt like the strong fiberglass smell that lingered for over a year. Oh...and the ratfur (Marine upholstery)? I just dont see the merit in being that concerned over the vinyl. But I'm a "mechanical" guy...not a scientist.

[QUOTE=BatDude;519260]Hi Darral,
Being science driven (both wife and I are research biologists/ecologists) we are likely "over the top" with such concerns.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:17 AM   #27
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Seems like there is out-gassing and pollutants everywhere these days. Tailpipe emissions, synthetic foam mattresses/cushions, carpet/vinyl adhesives, etc. With all of the plastics, foam,
and adhesives that are used in automobile manufacturing, I have wondered about sitting
inside an enclosed tow vehicle for hours enroute to a destination.

We tend to be outside of our trailer more than we are inside it. When we are inside the trailer,
we almost always have some windows and top-vent/fan open for air circulation.

The expoxy(s) used in early foam-and-fiberglass aircraft construction were very toxic ....
especially during the curing process. Some builders had their eyes swollen shut or other
more severe health consequences .... some temporary; some permanent. Later epoxy/poly resins were/are much safer and better.

Just my random thoughts .....
As always, YMMV.

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Old 05-01-2015, 10:54 AM   #28
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You can also look at the old fashioned linoleum if you are concerned about off gassing. We put some down in our house and also a trailer and were quite happy with it. One of the newer brands is Marmoleum.
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