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Old 04-30-2006, 06:32 PM   #15
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For the last couple of months I have been thinking about extending the closet in my love bug and converting it to a shower/bathroom. I know that the bathrooms on the 13ft trailers is usually made in the front, but I need the bed for my boys. Has anyone ever attempted or thought of doing this? If so, or even if not what are your ideas and or comments on this type of a project? Heres a sketch of what I'm talking about..
I have run into this on occasion. Have you ever thought about using a porta potti for a toilet and installing an outside shower? You could install a second hook for the shower head higher up on the sidewall and as long as you were wearing appropriate swimwear, ( you don't want to get arrested) you could shower outside. The porta potti could be kept under a bed or someplace converient for storage and take it out on the floor area for use.
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:42 AM   #16
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I had also seen a picture of a 13 foot aero-stream (sp) that had a little bathroom right there.
I know that the 17' wide body Burro located one there, but I believe the trailer is 7.5' wide. I'd venture to say that your Love Bug is only a little over 6' wide. The only other one that I know that has one in that position is the 16' Airstream and I believe it is 8' wide. I think the 1.5' to 2' difference is why I'm having a hard time seeing the possibility of that position in your trailer.

If the kitchen counter is 20" deep and the bathroom is 3' inside measurement (a necessary minimun for a shower/toilet combo, I would think), that only leaves a little over a foot for someone to work in the kitchen area. Maybe even less since the maximum width of our trailers is the middle. Inside floor space isn't quite that wide.

I'm not trying to put a damper on your idea because I think that you might be able to construct something like what has been suggested as far as an indoor fold away, but permanent... I just can't seem to visulaize it when I'm in my 16' trailer.
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I agree with Suz that the bath-beside-door setup, which I have seen in an Airstream, is for wider trailers. I also agree with Joseph that curbside dinette access would be a problem (it's tough enough already with just the closet) assuming that you want to keep the dinette (and not just a fixed bed).

Like many others, the fold-out or curtained shower area comes to mind, with Class B motorhomes as the shining examples. Some of them have hinged floor sections to cover a recessed shower pan between the frame rails.

If you are really into modifications, the wheel well interference problem can be addressed by using the space directly opposite the door, like my Boler B1700RGH, the Escape (plan with bathroom) and side-bath Scamp 16'. In a 13' trailer, that means moving at least some of the kitchen to that space beside the door (e.g. stove on one side, sink on other).

This is why they make bigger trailers, but on the other hand I would like to be towing something smaller. I hope you can work something out, James!
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This is an idea that we had on a boat when I was a kid...
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:50 PM   #19
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Andrew, consider this as "thinking out loud" as I haven't given much thought to either a toilet or shower in my Trillium.
Your reference to your boating adventures got my thinking of the boat we cruised on when I was a kid. To use the toilet, which was contained in a wooden box, you had to lift the lid that was hinged at the back and propped against the bulkhead to have headroom and then open the front of the box via a door in order to actually have access to the toilet itself.
Instead of having side swinging doors, what if you had a two part opening? 1 part lifted to the ceiling and the other lowered to the floor. The top section could have the rod for a shower curtain for privacy while the bottom part would be the shower floor. Just a thought for a tight quarters arrangement.
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I was thinking of doing something like this in my 13' Scamp, but I haven't worked out all of the details yet. I was thinking about making a rectangle suspended track on the ceiling out of PVC, that a couple of shower curtains could hang from for a complete enclosure. I could either take them down when not needed, or just push them back against the closet. For the shower floor I am thinking (don't laugh too hard) of an inflatable kids pool. The smallest I could find. Blow it up when needed, and when its not it won't take up any space at all. Plus, I don't have any black or grey water tanks in my trailer, so what ever I use I am going to have to cart away to empty and I figure this will work as well as anything else cause I am not planning to take really long showers here! So just another idea to toss around.

BTW- what are you going to do for water supply and does your trailer have a water heater already?
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Old 05-23-2006, 11:46 PM   #21
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Jaye,

Several of us have set up this type of shower. Try doing a search and also check out Ken James' web site. I know he has pictures of his setup.
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Thanks, I found his pics here if anyone else is interested:

http://community.webshots.com/album/145203904pQUXfI/2 and that is very much like what I am thinking of.




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Several of us have set up this type of shower. Try doing a search and also check out Ken James' web site. I know he has pictures of his setup.
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Old 07-21-2006, 03:35 PM   #23
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For the last couple of months I have been thinking about extending the closet in my love bug and converting it to a shower/bathroom. I know that the bathrooms on the 13ft trailers is usually made in the front, but I need the bed for my boys. Has anyone ever attempted or thought of doing this? If so, or even if not what are your ideas and or comments on this type of a project? Heres a sketch of what I'm talking about..
I put in a water heater and outside shower, works great juts got back from a month in Alska Wayne PS see it under (barbq)
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I put in a water heater and outside shower, works great juts got back from a month in Alska Wayne PS see it under (barbq)

Just adding my 2 cents worth... We added a when-you-need-it shower right in the middle of our 13' Burro. We bought two standard length heavy duty shower curtains, 4 screw-in hooks, 4 S hooks, and heavy duty cotton rope. I installed the 4 hooks, two on each side of the upper ceiling across the room from each other. Then, I ran the cotton rope through the shower curtain grommets, overlapping the curtains to make sure there wasn't a gap. (Some people may need 3 curtains). I tied the S hooks at the appropriate places and then tied the rope together, making a complete circuit around the top of the curtains. The S hooks are then attached to the screw hooks, with the last one needing a slight pull. The result is a fairly rectangular shower with a curtain that almost reaches the ceiling. The curtains are tucked into a large plastic tub from Wal-Mart, that can double as a carry-all when not used in the shower. The tub is about 6 inches deep, so no water splashes out. It can easily be slid out the door and emptied when finished. We are using the Coleman battery pump to power the shower, which uses a hand-held sprayer. No problems so far, and it can be put up and taken down easily and hung out to dry. I didn't put a PVC rack on the ceiling for the curtains because I'd hit my head on it all the time.
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Here's one of my favorite type of shower when camping.


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And if there isn't a shower around there's often a bathtub like this.


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There's a couple draw backs, but they soon out weight problems with hot water heaters, pumps, battery usage, etc., etc., etc.

1. Soap's a no no. But that's ok, a good rinse without the soap is almost as good.
2. The water is sometimes very refreshing.
3. If there's other people a swim suit might be necessary.

Sounds like a good trade off to me.
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We did indeed put a shower in our unit. It's based on the Coleman battery-operated pump. However, the key for us was the PVC frame we made and how we hung it. You might check out the Trillium album on our web site below. The picture here will show you the PVC frame in place. Those are stick-on coat hooks that hold the frame to the closet. The frame merely sits in the cradle of the hooks and can be lifted out and taken down readily. Voila! No sign of a shower room!

Good luck with yours.
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We did indeed put a shower in our unit. It's based on the Coleman battery-operated pump. However, the key for us was the PVC frame we made and how we hung it. You might check out the Trillium album on our web site below. The picture here will show you the PVC frame in place. Those are stick-on coat hooks that hold the frame to the closet. The frame merely sits in the cradle of the hooks and can be lifted out and taken down readily. Voila! No sign of a shower room!

Good luck with yours.

This is the PERFECT solution. I am going to copy it!!
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Wow, I saw your slide show, what an adventure! You did an excellent, excellent job. How on earth did that little Scamp wind up so abused? Here I was calling MINE "oldy moldy" but it's in excellent shape by comparison. I paid $1800 for a '75 Boler that was used as a hunting rig, sitting out in some field, but it has potential, too. Are you going to repaint the exterior? I love your stenciling, I'm definitely doing that on my seams...great idea.
I'm thinking of the mini-bathroom, too...bonding plastic to extend out the closet forward, I paced it out, and though it'd be a tight space for a toilet/shower (20"X33), you could sit and wash yourself and your hair (that's the part I can't go long without). Because I'm petite, it'd not be a big deal---but these trailers really weren't built for big people (no offense) in the first place. My friend >6' tall looked hunched, cut his thigh on the table squeezing in, but I can stand up, no problemo. I'm investigating rigid plastic sheeting that I can manufacture into a closet extension, and then cut the front out of the old closet. I don't know where to get something like 4'X8' sheets of white PVC, but I'm scouting. Glued and braced, with a drain floor and rubber flange, graded, I could line it ahead with that rubber they put under shower pans, so it didn't leak into the cabin, I'd have to put in the plumbing first. Since I want my bed to be a permanent bed, with some kind of storage underneath, the fact that you have no access to the left side of the table is no big deal---I just want to put in a tray for the gaucho. It's all pie in the sky presently, but it's fun to dream of the 3-D possibilities of our own personal little space. There's a lot of folks on here that are experts at mechanical, electrical, plumbing...I know houses a bit so that helps, but there's a learning curve for this little trailer, most definitely. Anyway, great work.

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I was thinking of doing something like this in my 13' Scamp, but I haven't worked out all of the details yet. I was thinking about making a rectangle suspended track on the ceiling out of PVC, that a couple of shower curtains could hang from for a complete enclosure. I could either take them down when not needed, or just push them back against the closet. For the shower floor I am thinking (don't laugh too hard) of an inflatable kids pool. The smallest I could find. Blow it up when needed, and when its not it won't take up any space at all. Plus, I don't have any black or grey water tanks in my trailer, so what ever I use I am going to have to cart away to empty and I figure this will work as well as anything else cause I am not planning to take really long showers here! So just another idea to toss around.

BTW- what are you going to do for water supply and does your trailer have a water heater already?
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