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Old 01-29-2006, 01:40 PM   #15
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I for one am grateful for a law that prohibits dumping of gray water onto the ground. Campsites are getting more and more use ever year with the more popular parks being completely full nearly year around. Can you even imagine what an awful mess the area around a trailer would be without this law Even the unimproved sites or areas off the beaten path where one can tow a trailer for camping would be awful. Garbage doesn't necessarily have to be the stuff that needs to be thrown into cans, as far as I'm concerned...water waste products qualify too.

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Old 01-29-2006, 03:55 PM   #16
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I have been known to dump grey in the fire pit. Usually the last cleaning stuff just before going away.

Ya gotta douse the pit anyway, and the ground is not exactly pristine there to start with.

I would never just dump it in the site in a hidden area. It only takes a few extra steps to get it to a toilet or dump station. With the smaller container I got, this is clean, easy and painless.

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Old 01-30-2006, 05:47 AM   #17
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Along with Loren's post, we are victims of our own national desire to "get away". The early '50s camping trailers, when they came with instructions, had instructions about how to dig a "gopher hole" into which the toilet and gray water all dumped straight down from the fixtures, and then you filled the 'gopher hole' back in before you left. Sort of a sophisticated trench latrine or pit toilet. That was in the days when there weren't RV parks per se, and just about any field or area next to a lake where you weren't trampling on someone's crops was an appropriate place to park.

When I first visited Mt. Rushmore in June of 1968, there was a small visitor's center, an overlook deck, and a large gravel parking lot that had a dozen or so cars in it. When I was there in 1992, there was a huge visitor's center, an amphitheater, and a five tier parking lot that was packed, and you could hardly see the monument for the people. Now I understand there's a multi-level parking garage! When I first saw Yosemite in the early '70s it was spectacular, and hardly anyone there. Last time I was there, (in the early '90s) there was enough smog in the valley that the air was brown, and there wasn't anywhere to park. Once upon a time at the geysers in yellowstone, you actually walked on the rock and could peer into the pools to see what was going on. Now, there are so many folks that the park service has had to build catwalks over the rock to protect the fragile limestone geysers environment from so many footfalls.

Camping used to be 'getting away from it all'. It's now become 'taking it all with you' while you travel and living in the 'burbs with your camper in some parts of the country. By the sheer numbers of folks who now camp, and the number of folks who camp who are absolutely clueless, it is necessary to regulate their conduct in the way they dispose of wastes. I have become a little more aggressive (while not militant) about discussing with clueless campers (in a pleasant, helpful way of course) when I see them fouling the campsites. Some are very nice and accept the suggestions in the spirit in which they're given. Some flash the finger and tell me to do something anatomically impossible. The range of folks camping is quite amazing, but we can all do our part to help keep our favorite 'getaway' places clean for our next trip.

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Old 01-30-2006, 08:49 AM   #18
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We seem to have a different set up. We use the largest oil change pan available. I think it is 3 gallons but we are frugal with water use. It slides nicely under the Boler and connects with a hose from the drain. It has a carry handle for emptying isn't too heavy and being relatively flat is easy to store. Works great for us.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:15 PM   #19
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Campsites are getting more and more use ever year with the more popular parks being completely full nearly year around.
I just read that the population of the USA will top [b]300,000,000 sometime this comming October.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:45 PM   #20
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Barbara, I like the oil drain pan idea.

I had actually considered using one for the kitchen sink. The one I use for changing oil would be perfect, if I could find a new one like it. It has a drain plug and even a screen to keep large chunks out. There is a handle and vent on one side and a spout with a screw on cap on the other for draining.

The only problem was asthetics. I remember many years ago there was something like that on the market for tent or tail gate kitchens. Maybe they are still available.
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Old 02-01-2006, 08:55 PM   #21
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Our pan slides completely under the trailer. Unless you bend way over to look under you would never see it.
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Old 02-01-2006, 10:04 PM   #22
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This is an interesting subject. I have no grey water tank, and we have gone tent camping for years. We always did dishes and tossed the dish water in the weeds, woods or whereever. I never thought anything of it.
Now I guess I have to change my ways, get a container and dump my dish water in the outhouse or haul it to the dumping station. OR----------maybe I need to look for a new trailer with a grey water tank.
I thought it was always proper to dump the dish water in the weeds next to the camp site.
We have only done primative camping, but It sounds like I need to change my ways now that I have a Scamp. ( I will be buying more paper plates, plastic silverware, etc so not having much dishwater).
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:16 PM   #23
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Searched ebay for a suitable hand-carry-able large jug to connect as an onboard grey water tank under sink. Some very nice military style containers are available but shipping costs would double the price. So, before making a commitment, I went over to (where else, eh?) Walmart. Found a 6 gallon plastic can there for about $6.beans and this is now my grey water holding tank, as seen in picture. I was guessing the thing was made in China but after looking closely - how about that - made in Canada! Perfect.
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Old 02-02-2006, 09:39 PM   #24
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Concerning dumping grey water in the weeds, flowers, grass, garden or whatever. Many soils, especially fine sands can benefit from a 'wetting agent' to reduce 'surface tension'.

What this means is that water applied to dry soil often doesn't soak in. I just slightly wets the surface, then runs off. Grey water contains some detergent, an excellent wetting agent, and small food particles, bacteria, etc. So I would think a little grey water applied in any month except April would make the April showers better soak in to produce the May flowers.

Of course, just like medicine, a little will produce a cure, but a lot might kill you.

So if I catch you anointing the flower beds with a little grey water, I won't tell!
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:03 PM   #25
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So Myron, how did you handle the drainage from your blue-grey water tank? Did you rig a valve, or are you thinking to just unscrew it and tote it to a dump point?
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:34 PM   #26
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Finally, a decent snowfall! Dug my way out to the buried egg today to check on that new graywater system of mine. By the way someone just told me I am spelling it wrong. It should be gray water, she says. The "e" is British usage, so I am told. Well excuuuse me! I wasn't an English major. Then she says I should have checked what's written on my gray crayolas if I was unsure of the spelling.

But I digress. Dave, when searching for the right graywater storage container a prime consideration was ease of portability and space management. It had to have a handle and I think 6 gallon capacity makes about the maximum weight for me to be lugging over to a disposal station. It unscrews from the drain hose easy and takes up almost no room under the sink. No holes, no valves, and so far, no pain.
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:23 PM   #27
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Hi Myron, is there a vent cap on that container of yours that you can open a bit to let air out of the container when grey water is running into it? .....without that you`ll probably get gurgling as the air tries to escape up the drain hose from the sink......also if you have a vent you`ll have to be careful not to overfill the container unless you can come up with a floating ball check to shut the vent if the water gets too high.....also don`t get too hung up on the "gray" as opposed to "grey"....I did a search on the web for grey water and all the sites came back as grey, not gray.......try it! ...Benny
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:42 AM   #28
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We'll pretend you're one of us Canucks', Myron;
just remember it's also labour and colour,
and fibreglass,
and roof is pronounced "ooof", like when you get hit in the stomach

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