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Old 09-11-2016, 11:58 PM   #15
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I don't want to drill holes either, and though that suction cups would be my fasteners of choice. I've bought three different brands of heavy duty items, and have had no luck getting them to stick. We definitely clean the area, I've added various stuffs to the cups to help them suck to it, but they haven't worked for me.

This awning, however, works great and requires no drilling and no suction cups.

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KingCamp awning, $80 Amazon. Also works on a hatchback, van, etc.
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Elpea, at that price, I think that King Camp awning might be the next addition to the suction cups and then I can use a small tarp for an over-the-door awning on the back of my camper. At that point it will be pretty similar to the bus depot awning, but I already have the poles, tarp and suction cups, so I can take my time now.

I wouldn't feel comfortable tying off to my rock guard, I feel like those little rivets would be strained in a strong wind, so i think I will stick with the suction cups. I will also make some side suction mounts so I can put my tent polls directly to the camper if the parking surface doesn't allow for staking out guylines. See attached.

Nancy, since you have an Egg shape camper and not a burger box shape like my Hunter II, I have read that it might be tougher to find a spot for the dual suction cups to attach. I think the solution would be to go with the solo suction cups or split the dual cup in two at the handle, then you will only need a good 5" surface for attachment which shouldn't be too tough. For a few bucks its worth a shot, before getting into adhesives or drilling.

Also, I got some cheap carabiners at Harbor Freight too, so I can leave the cord attached to the suction cups and have really quick set up/break down. 12 Piece Snap Clip Fastener Set
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James, I wouldn't worry about the awning stressing your rivets, but there are so many other options for how to tie this down.

I posted more photos and details here: KingCamp Compass Awning

The trailer-side tiedowns are very stretchy bungee material. At first I thought they had to be totally tight, but it was better when they still had some *give* to handle the wind, and then spring back. They can go in almost any direction (over the top of your trailer, stretch over the corner and down the side, tie onto another cord and hook onto a tire or even a stake on the far side...)

I trust these more than I trust suction cups, but if you're more burger box than egg-shape, the cups might work for you.
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Ellpea, thanks for sharing that link, its helpful to see that awning in action.
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Ellpea, thanks for sharing that link, its helpful to see that awning in action.
James, I am sorry to report that this awning has mysteriously disappeared from Amazon (but am happy that I got one before that happened).

The "Hasika Awning" on Amazon appears to be identical, although it is about $30 more than I paid for mine.
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Elpea, at that price, I think that King Camp awning might be the next addition to the suction cups and then I can use a small tarp for an over-the-door awning on the back of my camper. At that point it will be pretty similar to the bus depot awning, but I already have the poles, tarp and suction cups, so I can take my time now.

I wouldn't feel comfortable tying off to my rock guard, I feel like those little rivets would be strained in a strong wind, so i think I will stick with the suction cups. I will also make some side suction mounts so I can put my tent polls directly to the camper if the parking surface doesn't allow for staking out guylines. See attached.

Nancy, since you have an Egg shape camper and not a burger box shape like my Hunter II, I have read that it might be tougher to find a spot for the dual suction cups to attach. I think the solution would be to go with the solo suction cups or split the dual cup in two at the handle, then you will only need a good 5" surface for attachment which shouldn't be too tough. For a few bucks its worth a shot, before getting into adhesives or drilling.

Also, I got some cheap carabiners at Harbor Freight too, so I can leave the cord attached to the suction cups and have really quick set up/break down. 12 Piece Snap Clip Fastener Set
James, what is the little doodad in the image you've included? It looks like a suction cup support for a little awning pole? Ellpea must know what this is...!
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I use a tarp awning. I put a hook ( the kind with removable tape ) right next to the rivet on the rear top left corner, so it is also supported by the rivet cap. A rope goes to the rear corner of the tarp, and then down to the rear bumper. In front a rope goes from the top left corner of the window cover to the front corner of the tarp and then down to the frame. The loops for the rear rope are permanent, and in front there is only one taughtline hitch knot to tie. The outer corners are supported by poles and ropes to stakes. It take only a couple minutes to set up, and cost nearly nothing.
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Ellpea,

You are correct in what you are seeing. It is one half of the harbor freight double suction cup. In the nook where the suction cup fastening latch sits, the individual screwed a PVC pipe cape and made a "receiver" for the end of the tent pole to sit on the trailer's side. This provides a solution for locations where tent stakes can't be used. The guy lines can then be tied off to the trailer.

For the record, I found that picture online when trying to see if someone had implemented that idea.
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Ellpea,

You are correct in what you are seeing. It is one half of the harbor freight double suction cup. In the nook where the suction cup fastening latch sits, the individual screwed a PVC pipe cape and made a "receiver" for the end of the tent pole to sit on the trailer's side. This provides a solution for locations where tent stakes can't be used. The guy lines can then be tied off to the trailer.

For the record, I found that picture online when trying to see if someone had implemented that idea.
James, have you tried this yourself? I googled the image and did not find anything except a reference to hardware stores!

So I just now searched "Harbor Freight Double Suction cup" and got their "suction cup lifter" which has two cups and a handle connecting them. Is it your understanding the handle was removed? Cut off?
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yes, I believe the handle was cut off. If you saw vertically along the inside of the suction cup support through the handle it will look like what you see in the pictures. For those following the thread here is a link to the scutions cups. http://www.harborfreight.com/dual-cu...ter-46134.html

I have not done this yet but the suction cups have serious hold and i think the single cup would be fine.

If I have the chance to stop by the hardware store and pick up the right diameter PCV cap I will post some pictures. But here is where I stumbled upon the idea Drilling holes for awning pole mounts

The one thing I may try to do differently is, pilot a whole through the cap and fasten it with a single nut and bolt straight through the suction cup post and the cap; in the attached link, the individual used two wood screws, one from each side.
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yes, I believe the handle was cut off. If you saw vertically along the inside of the suction cup support through the handle it will look like what you see in the pictures. For those following the thread here is a link to the scutions cups. Suction Cup Lifter - Dual Cup Suction Cup Lifter

I have not done this yet but the suction cups have serious hold and i think the single cup would be fine.

If I have the chance to stop by the hardware store and pick up the right diameter PCV cap I will post some pictures. But here is where I stumbled upon the idea Drilling holes for awning pole mounts

The one thing I may try to do differently is, pilot a whole through the cap and fasten it with a single nut and bolt straight through the suction cup post and the cap; in the attached link, the individual used two wood screws, one from each side.
James, thank you for this link Amazing. Can't wait to try it. In the meantime, I'm also not happy with any options for mounting the TOP part of the awning above the window. I had tried another suggestion from a different thread... using command hooks.

I purchased regular shade cloth from the hardware store, and wooden dowels to use as rods. The plan was to hang the rods on command hooks, and then brace the shade out with *some* technique I hadn't yet figured out (yay HF suction cups!).

(As another quick aside, new fancy schmancy sewing machines, of which I have several, were very confused by this rubber-like "cloth." However, my White treadle sewing machine stepped right up to the job and sewed it like a dream.)

But in spite of others' experiences, the command hooks did not work for me. One came loose very quickly in direct sunlight. The other is still there but I haven't used it since (so, no stress or weight). So I have all of these dowels and the sewed awning material... but as yet, no joy.

Still working on it!

Thanks again for your help.
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another thing that might work well for mounting above the windows is using the suction cups horizontally and if you need more width for the attachment points (than the flat suction friendly surfaces will allow) you can insert a dowel or broom handle into the suction cup handle and then use a string or carabiner to attache to the handle extension.

It worked well for me as a was doing the makeshift tarp awning which was just a little long on the dimensions for my trailer. Just make sure you have a good suction spot b/c this will create more leverage on the suction cups.

Another thing I heard about these suction cups, is check the rubber on the cups before purchasing. From reading the reviews on HF, it sounds like every once in a while there is a cup with a bad mold that inhibits proper suction. There is enough flat metal or glass at a HF you should be able to check that they are up to snuff. I didn't see any with this issue when I was there.
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One thing that might work well for mounting above the windows is using the suction cups horizontally and if you need more width for the attachment points (than the flat suction cup friendly surfaces will allow) you can insert a dowel or broom handle into the suction cup handle and then use a string or carabiner to attache to the handle extension.

It worked well for me as a was doing the makeshift tarp awning which was just a little long on the dimensions for my trailer. Just make sure you have a good suction spot b/c this will create more leverage on the suction cups.

Another thing I heard about these suction cups, is check the rubber on the cups before purchasing. From reading the reviews on HF, it sounds like every once in a while there is a cup with a bad mold that inhibits proper suction. There is enough flat metal or glass at a HF you should be able to check that they are up to snuff. I didn't see any with this issue when I was there.
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One thing that might work well for mounting above the windows is using the suction cups horizontally and if you need more width for the attachment points (than the flat suction cup friendly surfaces will allow) you can insert a dowel or broom handle into the suction cup handle and then use a string or carabiner to attache to the handle extension.

It worked well for me as a was doing the makeshift tarp awning which was just a little long on the dimensions for my trailer. Just make sure you have a good suction spot b/c this will create more leverage on the suction cups.

Another thing I heard about these suction cups, is check the rubber on the cups before purchasing. From reading the reviews on HF, it sounds like every once in a while there is a cup with a bad mold that inhibits proper suction. There is enough flat metal or glass at a HF you should be able to check that they are up to snuff. I didn't see any with this issue when I was there.
James, I did try several suction cups up at the top, in several different locations. I was never able to get a secure "suction," and tried every strategy (DW liquid, cleaning surface first) I could find. I finally decided it was the overall roundness of my egg that made it hard. Am hoping that the side of the trailer might have some flatter areas.

That said, I was doing this in the direct sun and it was really hot. Maybe I gave up too soon... so will try again!
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