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Old 04-13-2013, 11:30 AM   #85
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overhead shelves

Hi Fred,

beware you also need to measure for your own spine+neck+head (headroom) when seated on the seats. i think you need over 3' for this so your overhead storage may need to be even higher ....

The top of the windows is not the only reference you need to look at that is.

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Well we're home and after spending 2.5 months testing our renos in SoCal we decided on a few more!
First things first we stripped it out and gave it a complete scrubbing with mixture of bleach and soap.
Everything needs a place and without a place it gets tossed in the corner,,, so we need more places.
We have decided to create a overhead storage above the dinette along with a bunch of other things but this is where we're starting.
The pic shows how I got the line where the unit will go. I decided to make it paralle(?) with the side windows and high enough to clear the rear window. Will also have side shelves that go forward to the stock cabinets.
Follow along as I stumble towards completion. Perfect doesn't exist in my world, decent is the goal.
Marilyn got the new drawer that I made in the center front last fall. That storage unit below the bed is where I kept my clothes,,WHAT A PAIN IN THE A**!! Access to that space is going to change.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:59 PM   #86
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I watching anxiously for you to complete your cabinet. I'm planning to do the same and I've gone over it in my mind creating about a dozen different designs. I think you do outstanding work, so I'm hoping you will be the magic pill that fixes all of my sleepless nights. I actually want to make it more of well designed shelf, without doors though. I just prefer that look using coordinated baskets to keep everything organized and a clean look. Then need something to cinch it all down while traveling. But I would like to have a good plan to start with that I can modify. I'm counting on you. lol
Also, glad you made it home safely. Looked like you had a fabulous west coast trip.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:24 PM   #87
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Luis, thanks for enough thought to post your concern!
I will double check that I won't be smackin my head every time
I get up from the dinette. Think I may even drag Marilyn out to the
shop to ensure my idea of enough space works for her too.
To the Otters, my enthusiasm got ruined today by 3 inches of snow!!
Thought we were done with that stuff!!
I have made a couple of atempts at getting the curve of the corners
transfered to wood,,,,,,ran outta wood!!
Once I get it I'll share what worked for me, but trail and error seems the answer. Robert said the curves were hard to get right,he is.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:20 PM   #88
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Well using the windows as a reference and the 2 sticks I had across them
really helped. They gave me a consistant location and allowed me to create a very close fit.
I was in and out of the Boler so much I took the door off!! It took forever to get the first corner. Even then both sides weren't the same. The second was close so it was easier to get it nice. Then I made the back piece in the middle which went pretty smooth.
I tied them together so they became a unit as my goal is to have the floor of this shelf made as a single piece. Then was the job of getting it out of the trailer as a single piece. Turned out just had to take out the upper kitchen cabinet support,simple.
This piece is just the pattern. The finish product will be in birch ply.
The next step in the trailer is to glas in a support for the shelf to rest on.
I plan to do this a little different than I have seen up to present.
I plan to cut the ensolite along the line and peel it down a bit, create the ledge which will look like a wedge in a cross section view then glue the ensolite back up.
If anyone has seen this I would appreciate a link cause I'm a little nervous about it.
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Old 04-14-2013, 08:34 PM   #89
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Excellent template. You're doing what I had in mind with the wrap around. Are you planning to glue the wedges on or use a fastener? Someone on here tried glueing but ultimately had to fasten with bolts or screws? He did a nice job though securing it. I'll look for that link. You're going to have some nice storage there with a lot less frustration retrieving your clothes.
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I'd lose stuff in a cabinet that deep Can't wait for the rest of the build!
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This is the link I am referring to.
1974 Boler Resto. Oops, I did it again...

Update: I reread your post where you indicated you are glassing in the support. That's a good idea. Looking forward to seeing that.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:03 PM   #92
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Donna I don't know that I'll keep it that deep but it's easier to cut it off than add it on.
Thanks for the link "Otters" I had read that and that is why i started thinking in a different direction.
I may keep a bit of stuff up there but my clothes are still going under the dinette seat but with different access at least that is the plan.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:24 AM   #93
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Nice work on the boler. I still laugh every time I see the title of the ahole in my boler. Keep up the great work.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:35 PM   #94
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No worries, snowed out here in Calgary too.

Use 1/2 " hard foam (insulation) sheets from Home Depot to transfer the curves to wood. Easy and cheap!
(Look into my post)

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Luis, thanks for enough thought to post your concern!
I will double check that I won't be smackin my head every time
I get up from the dinette. Think I may even drag Marilyn out to the
shop to ensure my idea of enough space works for her too.
To the Otters, my enthusiasm got ruined today by 3 inches of snow!!
Thought we were done with that stuff!!
I have made a couple of atempts at getting the curve of the corners
transfered to wood,,,,,,ran outta wood!!
Once I get it I'll share what worked for me, but trail and error seems the answer. Robert said the curves were hard to get right,he is.
Fred
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A pin-type contour gauge (link) works really well for transferring curves.

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Nice work on the boler. I still laugh every time I see the title of the ahole in my boler. Keep up the great work.
Is there ahole in your Boler too?
LOLOLOLOLOL
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Thanks for the ideas on the line transfer,,maybe next time,,,,

Well after a couple of days pondering how to hold the overhead in place I changed my mind again as I just couldn't see my plan working.
But I think I came up with something better.
Although a ledge for the shelf to rest on would be preferable I was forseeing too many problems.
This is what I came up with.
The first pic is the end view of wood pieces shaped to the contour of the boler, second pic shows where and third shows that it goes under the Ensolite. The small blocks of wood represent the shelf thickness.
There is lots of contact surface with 29 inches down both sides and 5-8inch pieces across the back. I plan to secure these with resin and a layer of glas mat between the shell and the wood to fill any voids. Then glue and screw the shelf up to it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:34 AM   #98
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Got all the supports glased in last night.
I worked in the garage with no heat, gives a lot more prep time with the resin, once I had everything postioned turned the heat up.
Wanted a little pressure on the pieces so the glas would contact better so I came up with this abortion! It just needed to be firm, kinda like holding it there with your hand. The pieces of wood are under the ensolite. This morning i took out all the supports and everything looks great. I used at least 20 pounds of forse on each one trying to pull them off, didn't budge.
I set the template up into postion and mounted it with 3 screws gonna be AWESOME!! Using the side windows for reference was really key for me and cutting the ensotile on the line at the bottom of the supports turned out to be exactly right. Because when you set the pieces up in place with the glas wet the ledge where the ensolite was cut in combination with the ensolite uncut at the top held the wood pieces in place till i installed the pressure supports.
It's about 22 inches deep and the opening is about 11 inches high.
I set up the table and tryed to get a feel for the size, it's maybe a little big but we'll get used to it.
Guess it's time to buy the birch ply,,,,,,,
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