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Old 07-05-2013, 06:30 PM   #29
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And another web site:

This site was created to help you do some research on how to find out which tires are made in America. Check out our page, Where's My Tire Made, for code info.

One source is Tirerack.com. On their website you can enter your tire size and look at many tires. When you see one you're interested in, click that tire. Then click on the "SPECS" tab. The last column will show you where the tire was manufactured.

Remember the only 100% sure way to tell where your tire is made is to physically look at the side wall. You can use this info to buy locally but have the tire store confirm U.S.A. on side of tire before having them installed. Please, let them know Americanmadetires.com referred you.

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This is a much discussed topic on all trailer forums. Finding an independent technical review is difficult, mostly you only hear from those that have failures.

So far I haven't found a review but I did find the following explanation/description of ST tires that may be of interest.

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Old 07-05-2013, 06:55 PM   #31
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Country-of-origin does matter in today's commerce, and it's not limited to specs and quality control of the end product. It's how a product is made, and under what conditions, that should interest us just as much, and help drive our buying decisions. The garments recently made in Bangladesh all met their industry's product quality standards, yet I don't think many of us can feel comfortable knowing the immense risks the workers were exposed to while churning them out.

Maybe Chinese tires are just as good as US or French, but then again maybe not, all things considered.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:17 AM   #32
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IMHO, the best option for 13" trailer tires are Maxxis Radial M8008 ST, made in Thailand, with a C load range. I believe Discount Tire can special order these. I bought mine online. The best 14" trailer tires are Kumho Radial 857, made in Korea, that I bought online from Tire Rack. These are not ST but sold in the US as trailer tires.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:48 AM   #33
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Last point first this time:

Buying your tires from a tire chain will also have the adventage that if a tire fails you have a better chance of going to a branch of that same company for a warranty claim. Otherwise warranty value can be a crapshoot if you have a sidewall fail in Padukah, KY and you bought your tires at Joes Tires in Parump, NV. Same warning about buying on-line, you may save a few $$, but you do put more space between you and the supplier in the event of a problem. Me, I always use America's Tire/Discount Tire, they match on-line prices and have the best customer service on the planet.

Buying chinese made tires with a major mfgs name on them seems a safer bet than house brand tires, the makers have more to lose if they make defective products.

About Chinese Tires..... Many private and name brand tires are now made in China where, at least a few years back, there were significant quality problems when local managers (in China) attempted to increase profits by using excessive amounts of recycled tire material in new tires. As of late I haven't seen much on that issue but: "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" is still good advice when it can be followed.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:27 AM   #34
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Per the Kumho 857:

Not sure where the "this isn't a trailer tire" comes from. Here's its description from one site where it's sold:

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The Radial 857 is KUMHO's Euro-metric Commercial-sized special purpose tire designed for use on trailers. Radial 857 tires are not intended to be used on cars or light trucks.

On the outside, the Radial 857 features a 4-rib design to provide constant rubber-to-road contact that delivers dependable highway stability, traction and durability. Internally, the Radial 857 features twin steel belts that stabilize the tread to increase traction, while a 2-ply, polyester cord body helps even out the trailer's ride.

KUMHO Radial 857 tires feature blackwall styling and are available in Q-speed rated 82-series, Load Range D (65 psi) Euro-metric Commercial sizes for 14" wheel diameters.

Special purpose trailer tires are not UTQG rated.
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:26 PM   #35
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Thank you everyone all for your helpful comments and suggestions.

Tom, your info about the 13" Maxxis Radial M8808 ST from Thailand available from Discount tire by special order, is appreciated and will be kept in mind when the need for new tires arises.

Hope everyone has good luck with their tires .
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Maxxis are good tires! Made by a Chinese company called "Cheng Shin Rubber"..

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Maxxis has manufacturing facilities in locations including Yuan Lin, Taiwan; Xiamen, China; Kunshan, China; Rayong Province, Thailand; and Vietnam.
Maxxis has technology centers in Yuan Lin, Taiwan and Kunshan, China. The Maxxis proving ground is located in Kunshan.
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:47 PM   #37
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Francesca,

Thank you for this info. One never stops learning! I guess the Chinese have a monoply on trailer tires now, like a lot of other things.
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It's interesting that a product that I imagine uses a fairly automated process has to be manufactured in China.
Two explanations come to mind, although both are frankly guesses:
  • Although automated to a significant extent, there is still significant labour in manufacturing tires.
  • There are many more factors than labour rates which affect the cost of doing business in a location. Cheap supplies, inexpensive land with cheaply built facilities on it, and lax regulations could all make a completely automated factory cheaper to run in some countries than anywhere in North America.

Good work can be done anywhere; bad work can be done anywhere. The least well-built vehicles I have owned have been "American" (Chevy pickup and Ford Focus), but our very well built Toyota Sienna made in the U.S. too, as all Siennas have always been.
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In my search for trailer tires, I did come across a brand that was not made in China but rather in Thailand.
Are you thinking that Thailand would be better or worse? My guess would be worse, if there is any difference due to location.
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Rather than just settling on any Chinese trailer tire, what is really needed is a good technical review of 13" trailer tires with field tests and owner reviews.
That would be nice, but I would not expect that to ever happen. For one thing, most people really don't care about trailer tires, which is why there is mostly junk available. Also, with distributors changing their suppliers regularly - lowest bid wins - any review done today would be obsolete tomorrow.
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I've been wondering about the energy cost component. United States electricity costs have been getting high and projected to go higher with the shutting down of coal fired plants.

I've never been to a tire plant but I expect thete may be an energy component.
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Per the Kumho 857:

Not sure where the "this isn't a trailer tire" comes from.
Francesa, I don't know where you are finding any statement that the Kumho Radial 857 is not a trailer tire. In the 33 posts before yours, this is the only reference to Kumho:
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The best 14" trailer tires are Kumho Radial 857, made in Korea, that I bought online from Tire Rack. These are not ST but sold in the US as trailer tires.
Tom quite clearly says that they are not "ST" (which is true); he does not say that they are not trailer tires.
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