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Old 08-20-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
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Hello. I was thinking on adding my spare tire under my tongue but I'm not sure if it will be too heavy. I already have one propane tank and one battery. I have a trillium 1300. Thanks for your help.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:36 PM   #2
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It depends on what your tow vehicles tongue limit is as well as the hitch class & ball limit you are using.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:43 PM   #3
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I have a Mazda tribute 2009 and my load capacity is 2000 lbs. I've weight the camper last week and the total weight was 1100 lbs.
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What does just the tongue weigh? My guess with two full propane tanks & battery you are probable over 200lbs. What does the tow vehicle manual say in regards to max tongue weight? What class hitch do you have on the car? whats the ball size - most of the balls have a weight limit stamped on the top of them.
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Jerome, I did a quick google search and it looks like your Mazda may only have a tongue rating of 150lbs. I would give Mazada a call to confirm that. 150lbs is pretty easy to go over .. if you havent weighed just the tongue with the trailer loaded you may want to do that. You may need to loose one of your propane tanks even without the tire on the tongue ;-)
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I only have one tank
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:52 PM   #7
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I only have one tank
Sorry my mistake. Even so I suspect you are up in the 150lb range if not higher - I only have one 20lb tank and one battery and dont carry a lot in the front of the trailer and its in the 220lbs range when the tank is full.
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Since your fresh water holding tank is behind the axle, put water in the holding tank to lower your tongue weight. This will of course increase your total weight.
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put water in the holding tank to lower your tongue weight. This will of course increase your total weight.
It will also increase the chances of a sway issue if you drop the tongue weight to below 10% of your total weight after having increased your weight at the rear with water.
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It will also increase the chances of a sway issue if you drop the tongue weight to below 10% of your total weight after having increased your weight at the rear with water.
Yes, that is a concern.
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Old 08-20-2012, 07:32 PM   #11
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Mazda Tribute and Ford Escape

I own neither a Trillium or a Mazda Tribute, but I believe a Ford Escape and Mazda Tribute are vehicle clones. You might PM Floyd, he has an Escape and has towed extensively with it. As well Floyd has a 13 foot trailer.

As to carrying water in your tank to balance the tongue, I do carry about 8 gallons. I have not seen any sway with our trailer, admittedly it is not a Trillium.

I was wondering why you want to move the tire to the front hitch. Is it typically at the rear of the trailer?

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Since your fresh water holding tank is behind the axle, put water in the holding tank to lower your tongue weight. This will of course increase your total weight.
Last year I did a little experiment to see how I could effect the tongue weight on my Trillium. One of the things I tried was adding water . What I found was that for every 2 1/2 gallons of water (approximately 20 lbs) I added to my tank, the tongue weight dropped by only 5 lbs. Moving something from the front to the back was the most effective. Raz
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You may have thought of this, but are you concerned about clearance? My tongue jack, which would have a similiar amount of clearance, has scraped on 2 occasions where the dip was too severe coming out onto the street - the jack bent slightly, a tire may not be so forgiving? Just a thought.
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I would not recommend moving any more weight to the front. My 13 food Scamp had a tongue weight of nearly 180 pounds when I bought it. I removed the battery from the tongue and replaced the steel propane tank with a fiberglass one and am now sitting somewhere around 130 pounds. It is easy to make additional adjustments by loading the trailer properly.

Sway is induced by having low tongue weight combined with high speeds. The norm in Europe is to have 4% of the trailer weight on the tongue. They tend to tow a bit slower than we do.

Keeping the tongue weight to a safe, low level will make towing much more pleasant with a smaller vehicle like your Mazda.
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