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Old 10-19-2006, 11:17 PM   #15
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One thing we are not sure of is A/C. Most of our friends have put small household A/C units in the rear windows, but we had thought about a Coleman Polar Cub unit. They weigh almost 100 lbs and we aren't sure if this will be a problem. Also the fiberglass isn't as thick as 'normal' trailers and we're not sure about this. Has anyone put one of these units in their trailer?

About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/in...howtopic=13185
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:58 PM   #16
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...A question about the frame. In the picture there appears to be three pieces coming out from the frame to a fourth piece. Am I not thinking right or is this for strengthening the area at the door. If so is the picture backwards?...
I've never seen a Little Bigfoot frame before, but it looks to me like the photo shows the frame upside-down - notice that the step in the frame at the tongue end goes down in the photo, and is very likely up in use; also, the "wheelie wheels" (casters) are on the top (bottom in use) of the rear (close) end of the frame.

Also, it looks like the frame is notched for the axle tube, and the axle brackets then complete the frame rail. This is a clever way to get the frame low, which I had only seen before (in a moulded fiberglass travel trailer) on a U-Haul. How ironic that on some current Bigfoot models there are 4-inch-high spacers between the spring mounts and the frame to push the trailer higher.
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Old 10-20-2006, 02:41 PM   #17
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Hi Roger, GREAT JOB! A question about the frame. In the picture there appears to be three pieces coming out from the frame to a fourth piece. Am I not thinking right or is this for strengthening the area at the door. If so is the picture backwards? Also do you any other pictures of the rear of the frame? Due to the molded in bumper I've never been able to see under mine. Thanks in advance. Keith

Keith, You are correct. The door area seemed weak so I decided to add reinforcment while we had it torn apart. And yes, the frame was laying upside down on the floor when I took the picture. I will try to get some more pictures of the back of the frame when I get it back up on the hoist. Roger

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Old 10-20-2006, 03:03 PM   #18
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About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/in...howtopic=13185
The original reinforcment consisted of about a 1 inch frame all the way around the vent opening. I took half inch plywood, scored the back side of it in both directions so it would conform to the curve of the roof line, and glued it to the entire raised section of ceiling, then braced it with poles until the glue set. I placed the poles very firmly which pushed the roof up a little as it had a bit of a sag to it anyway. Seems to be holding, but we don't have the A/C unit in place as yet. This picture is the first half of the roof. I added another piece of plywood in front of this one to just about cover that whole section.Roger

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Old 10-20-2006, 03:26 PM   #19
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[quote]Keith, You are correct. The door area seemed weak so I decided to add reinforcment while we had it torn apart. And yes, the frame was laying upside down on the floor when I took the picture. I will try to get some more pictures of the back of the frame when I get it back up on the hoist. Roger
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Thanks Roger and Brian, I understand the picture now!! The door area is weak! I had a channel iron welded across between the two frames which helped but the door still sags a bit. I like your bracing better. Keith
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Old 10-20-2006, 05:18 PM   #20
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Thanks Roger and Brian, I understand the picture now!! The door area is weak! I had a channel iron welded across between the two frames which helped but the door still sags a bit. I like your bracing better. Keith

I added two extra "floor joists" besides the entry reinforcement. One between the closet and the kitchen sink area and the one you can see in the picture straight out from the door. It really makes a good solid feel to the floor. Roger
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Old 10-20-2006, 08:17 PM   #21
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About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/in...howtopic=13185
Hi there I too have restored a 13' bigfoot trailer from the ground up. There is no wood in the roof to support an air unit. It should be noted that the wood panel on the ceiling is an important part of the roof structure. If you have any questions on this little trailer I would be happy to answer them.
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Old 10-20-2006, 09:57 PM   #22
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Hi there I too have restored a 13' bigfoot trailer from the ground up. There is no wood in the roof to support an air unit. It should be noted that the wood panel on the ceiling is an important part of the roof structure. If you have any questions on this little trailer I would be happy to answer them.

Your trailer looks great. Ours has 1/2 inch wood reinforcment in the ceiling NOW. It only had a thin piece of wall paneling before and the 1 inch wide trim around the vent opening was an add on. I would never have expected the old application to support any weight on the roof. Roger
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:12 PM   #23
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With my grandson's help, we figured out how to resize some pictures of the demolition of our 13 foot Lil Bigfoot. Next week we plan to start painting, then we can serious about putting things back together again.
I would like you all to see some of the progress that we are making on our '87 L'il BigFoot. It's actually farther along with the cabinets than this. All the cabinets are in, the doors are ready for installation and the A/C unit will go on top Sat. morning with the help of several strong friends. R 'n B



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Old 03-30-2007, 07:22 PM   #24
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[quote]I would like you all to see some of the progress that we are making on our '87 L'il BigFoot. It's actually farther along with the cabinets than this. All the cabinets are in, the doors are ready for installation and the A/C unit will go on top Sat. morning with the help of several strong friends. R 'n B

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Show us more , show us more !!! Please !!! It looks fabulous !

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Old 04-07-2007, 07:11 PM   #25
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Show us more , show us more !!! Please !!! It looks fabulous !

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Old 05-25-2007, 11:38 PM   #26
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All I can say is WOW !!!! That is amazing work....!!! We love everything you did to it. Truly spectacular ! Thanks for sharing. You've inspired us !! Now if it would only stop snowing here so we can get outside to work on our BF !!! Happy trails ! Mitch
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:33 AM   #27
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Awesome Awesome work! When are you going to paint the hot rod to match?

Seriously, that's really great.

My garage spray booth is like that. I stapled slats on the bottom of the plastic so I can roll up the poly and wire-tie it to the ceiling when not in use.. I also screwed my regulator/water filter to the ceiling and have a coily cord hanging from it so I can reach all the corners of the spray booth without dragging my hose all over the place... I also screwed metal shelving supports to the ceiling so I'd have lots of places to hang things for spraying... I also use a furnace blower to blow air out the bottom of the garage door and put a furnace filter in front of it. The rest of the door panel gets blocked off and fresh air comes in the little slot at the top. I like your idea of having the filters at the bottom though.
I only regret that my Boler 17 won't fit in my garage so I'm going to have to rent a booth.

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Old 09-15-2007, 09:01 PM   #28
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We had the pleasure of meeting Bonnie and Roger at Nehalem Bay State Park in Oregon this past week and viewing the 1987 Li'l Bigfoot. Their design and meticulous attention to detail has made this trailer a work of art!

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